Kit Gong, Bobbie Gore, Joy Gore, Amy Gore and Billie Gore Oral History

Kit Gong, Bobbie Gore, Joy Gore, Amy Gore, and Billie Gore

Tape 1 of 1                 5/24/00           


By: Kimberly Lancaster and Jennifer Mitchell


This is an interview of the Chinese in the Mississippi Delta.  The interview is being recorded with Kit Gong, Bobbie Gore, Joy Gore, Amy Gore and Billie Gore on May 24, 2000.  The interviewers are Kimberly Lancaster and Jennifer Mitchell.


KL:  Today is May 24, 2000.  We are here in Merigold.  I am Kimberly Lancaster, and

JM:  Jennifer Mitchell

KL:  We are speaking with

AG:  Amy Gore

KG:  Kit Gong

JG:  Joy Gong

BG:  Bobbie Gore

KL:  Here in Merigold at Amy Gore’s house.  Could you tell us how you all are related?  We just spoke of this before the interview.

BG:  Amy Gore is my mother.  Joy Gore is my grandmother.  Kit Gong is my neighbor.  My name is Bobbie Gore.  I am the daughter of Amy.  Amy is the daughter-in-law of Joy.

JM:  Well let’s see let’s start with you.

(Dialog in Chinese)

JM:  Let’s see, could you tell us about your parents?

(Dialog in Chinese)

AG:  Luck Lin Wong, and daddy’s name is Chin Jay Chow

JM:  Luck Lin Wong and Chin Jay Chow, and were they born in China?

All:  Yes, they were born in China.

JM:  Were you born in China?

BG:  Yes she was born in China.

JM:  When did you come to the United States?

JG:  1965

JM:  1965, did your parents come here?

AG:  No

JM:  Did you come with your husbands?

BG:  She came by herself.  My grandfather came here first.  As around when he was like sixteen years old.

AG:  Grandpa (Dialog in Chinese.)

(Dialog in Chinese)

JG:  A long time ago.

AG:  (Dialog in Chinese)

(Dialog in Chinese)

BG:  My grandfather

AG:  Ming

BG:  Ming

AG:  Pop Chow Gore

BG: I mean Pop Chow Gore came in 1938 to America.  Then he stayed here for like ten years.  Then went back to China and got married.  Married first then came back here then after one year.

AG:  One year…

BG:   Then came back here to start a business in 1949.

JM:  Did he come to the delta in 1949?

BG:  He came to Greenwood.

(Dialog in Chinese.)

BG:  He came to Merigold first.

JM:  So in 1938, he moved to the United States.  He was in Greenwood, MS.

BG:  Yeah

JM:  Then he moved back to China?

BG:  Right

JM:  Is that when you all got married?

BG:  Yeah they probably, I guess, it was around then they got married.

JM:  In China?

BG:  In China, then he came back here.

JM:  In 19 . . .

BG:  In 1949.

JM:  That is when he came to Merigold?

BG:  Right

JM:  When did you come to Merigold?

AG:  1966 or 1965.

KL: So, did he have brothers here?

BG:  I think his cousins, relatives.  We are not sure about that.  His cousins here.

JM:  In Merigold or here in the delta?

(Tape was not able to understand.)

JG:  Merigold, his uncle.

BG:  Yeah, uncles here in Merigold.

(Dialog in Chinese)

BG:  Both uncles were here in Merigold.  Then we had a cousin in Greenwood.

JM:  Did the uncles have a store here in Merigold, or did he create one?

BG:  Partnerships in the stores here in Merigold.

JM:  Do you have any brothers or sisters?

AG:  She has a brother.

BG:  She has a brother in Clarksdale.

JM:  Did he also come in 1965?

AG:  No

(Dialog in Chinese)

AG:  Two years earlier than her.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

JM:  Okay just two years.

(Dialog in Chinese)

JM:  What made you decide to come to the United States after some years?  What made you?

BG: We did just come here to earn some money.  At the time there was war  . . .

BillieG.:  A lot of Chinese to earn some money.  The same way with Italians.  They would go back, but because of the communist.

BG:  Communist we didn’t go back.

BillieG.:  A lot of Chinese actually would stay here.

BG:  Stay here.  Was it right after W. W. II?  It was like Japanese too also.  So that is what my brother said.

KL:  Could you tell us about your children?  When did your start your family?

BG:  My grandma?

KL:  Yes

BG:  Oh my grandma only had one son, my dad, which Lock Gore.  He came here when he was like a teenager.

AG:  Yeah teenager.

BG:  Like around like what fourteen or so.  He went to school.  I think he went to Cleveland High School or around there.  After that study, he went to Mississippi State and studied there.  Then I guess he got married and met my mom.  They had three kids.  Bobbie, Billie, and Benny, we grew up here.  We went to Cleveland High School all of our lives basically.  We were born in Cleveland, MS.

JM:  All of you are in college, which is Benny who has just graduated.

BG:  Yeah, Benny is about to go to college.

JM:  When you first moved to Merigold, did you all live in this house, or where did you live?

AG:  We lived in the store.

BG:  We lived in the back of the store.

AG:  Front is the store and the back is the home.

BG:  We lived in the back no they lived in the back of the store, my grandparents and them.  Then they came and built this house.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  We built the house here one year.

AG:  No, not one year, two year.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

JG:  1972

BG:  1972, they built this house after living in the store a few years. So, basically we have been in this house since it was built.

JM:  You lived in the store also?

BG:  No, my mom didn’t.

JM:  Your husband did.

BG:  My dad did when he was over here.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

JM:  What did you do in the store?  What was your job in the store?

BG:  She just helped around.

AG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)  Stocking and everything.

JG:  Everything

BG:  The family run the business.

JM:  So your husband was also.

BG:  Yeah my grandfather.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

KL:  Where in China were you born?

AG:  Canton

(Dialog in Chinese)

KL:  What was it like growing up there?

(Dialog in Chinese.)

(Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  Get married, fifteen or sixteen get married.

JM:  Let’s get a little bit of your background?

KG:  Me

JM:  Yes

KG:  I understand. (Tape was not able to understand.)  I will try to okay.  You talk and I will talk.  My turn?

JM:  Yes

KG:  What would you like to know?

JM:  Where were you born?

KG:  I born in Toyson.

JM:  In China?

KG:  In China.

JM:  Is that also in Canton?

KG: I was fourteen years old I come to Hong Kong.  I stay in Hong Kong for ten years.  I meet my husband. My husband goes back to Hong Kong.  He find a girl and get married.  My luck, I meet my husband.  One man and I got married. I married and the one man and I come to America.  I come in 1959 on to Merigold.

JM:  So you came straight to Merigold?

KG:  Yes ma’am

JM:  Did you all have family here also?

KG:  My family or my husband’s family?

JM:  Both

KG:  Both?

JM:  Yes

KG:  I never know my mother-in-law and father-in-law.  I came into Merigold.  I know him mother-in-law and father-in-law.  He came for New Year.  I came to Merigold. I passed.

AG:  Your husband was born in here.

KG:  My husband was born in Merigold.  All the children was born here.

JM: So, what did he do in Merigold?

KG: Store

JM:  Store

AG:  Neighbor

JM:  So the store is the one that is on the corner.

KG:  Gong Company

JM:  Did you also live in the store or behind the store I mean?

KG:  I live upstairs.  The store only close about a year ago children go to college.  They no here.  Maybe Gong Company is no working more.  I close up about a year ago.

JM:  Where did they go to college?

KG:  My children?

JM:  Yes

KG:  Two are at Ole Miss.  I have three children, one son and two girls.  The younger girl go to New York.  Colorado

JM:  Colorado also.

KL:   We spoke with Annette and Juanita Gong, are you related?

KG:  Oh yes my niece.

KL:  Your niece?

KG:  Yes, you know Juanita

KL:  We talked to them for this.

KG:  You talked Juanita?

KL:   Oh I see.

KG:  Juanita is old for you? You is young, huh? Juanita old for you?

KL:  Oh we did this for this project.  It is the same thing,

KG:  Oh

AG:  So you’ll are meeting more.

JM:  This is for both of you all.  What was a typical day like at you all stores?  Like what time did you open?  What time did you close?  Who bought things at your store?

KG:  Long hour, fourteen hours.  I told you six thirty to nine o’clock fourteen hours.

JM:  Everyday?

KG:  Hard work Saturday, till eleven.

(Dialog in Chinese)

KG:  Six thirty all to nine Monday onto Friday.  Saturday eleven.

JM:  Six thirty to eleven.

AG:  Long hours

KG:  Hard work, not easy.

JM:  Did anyone besides your family help you in the store?

KG: Just a family store.  Nobody helped.

BG:  It is just like my grandma and grandpa and my dad.

AG:  No your daddy’s uncle helped sometimes.

BG:  My dad’s uncle helped sometimes.

AG: Money is not quite.

JM:  Who shopped at you all’s stores?  Was it everybody in town?

AG: (Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  Mostly

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

JG:  Call all people, like everybody.

KG:  When you like it come you come.  You don’t like it don’t come.  The door was open.

JM:  Okay

BG:  Paper towels

JM:  So the people from the smaller communities around Merigold.

BG:  Like Shelby, or Crabtree.

KL: A lot of farming works.

BG:  Farming works yeah.

AG: People come to shop in Merigold, too.

BillieG.:  Long time ago.

AG:  We used to go to Cleveland, too. It has a Kroger.  People used to shop in Merigold, but you know long time ago Cleveland had a Kroger a Wal-Mart the people all go to.

BG:   Yeah so there are fare business.

JM:  Did you all work in the store when you all were growing up?  This is for Bobbie and Billie?

BG:  Not really, we didn’t work.  We just go to school and study.

JM:  What values were you able to pass on to your son that were important?

BG:  Values, work hard, study hard, do your best at everything.  Be good.

JM:  What does be good mean?

BG:  Like don’t get in to trouble.

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

JG:  (Dialog in Chinese)

BG:  Like it is very hard to make money.  So work hard, study hard and be successful in way and to make something of yourself.

JM:  Do you feel like you all have gotten those values also?

BG:  Yes we got our worth.  If it is like you see what your parents go through.  It is really hard work.  So you live up to it to be better.  Not like I don’t know how to say it.

JG:  (Dialog in Chinese)  Find a job, to leave the store.  It is hard work.  It is long hours of work.  Love to go to school, and study and easy to find another job.

JM:  What study are you in?

BG:  I am in  pharmacy.  I am about to start.  My brother is in electric engineering.  My sister is in, she has no idea.  She said something about electric engineering, but she doesn’t know what yet.

JM:  Is she going to Ole Miss also?

BG:  She is going to Tech.

JM:  Wow

(Dialog in Chinese)

KG:   What you like to know?

JM:  What about your children?

KG:  My children?

JM:  Yes

KG:  My older one my son Keith Gong.  He is in computer.  He lives in San Francisco.  My oldest daughter, Sonya Gong.  (Tape was not able to understand.)

(Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  And the baby girl?

KG:  She is with two year of education.  She moved to Starkville Company at Starkville headquarter.  My youngest daughter (Tape was not able to understand.)  She is in doctor school there.  She is teaching for the Cancer School College. That is all.

JM:  That is good work.  Smart.  Did you get married here or in China?

KG:  I married in Hong Kong.

JM:  That is right.  I am sorry you said that.

KG:  In 1959, I came to America.  At the age of eighteen.

AG:  I obviously couldn’t remember.

KL:  Did you fly?

KG:  No, like a boat came in for twenty-eight days.

JM:  Man

KG:  I came in Japan, Hawaii.  We stopped in Hawaii.

JM:  Did you get to stay over night?

KG:  Just one day that is all.  Get up in the morning maybe at seven thirty at night time.  Six thirty you come back to boat.

KL:  Then to San Francisco, or Seattle?

KG:  Yeah we stayed in San Francisco.  I stayed in San Francisco.  One week I stayed in a motel.  My husband, he had a lot of cousins that live in San Francisco.  Everybody likes him to see me.  I stop there and one week stay at California.  Like there a train come into Merigold.

AG:  Like train

KG:  Like train come to Merigold from San Francisco.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

JM:  How long did that take?

KG:  Two days and two nights.

KL:  What did you think of the Delta, when you saw it?

KG:  I don’t like it.  It was a too little of a town. I am tired.  I come into Merigold.  I am tired a lot.  Food is not good.  It looks like China.  I miss all of my family.  I miss all of my good friends.  Looking at Merigold this small, Hong Kong is real big and nice.

JM:  Did you become involved in the Chinese community here in the delta?

KG:  Not at first.

KL:  Did you have any connections and friendships with the Chinese people in Cleveland?

KG:  Well there is a lot of Chinese people over in Cleveland, I come in here. I really didn’t know the Chinese people at all.

JM:  Do you like the delta now?

KG:  Not really

JM:  Have you been back to China?

KG:  Three times.

JM:  Three times.  Did you go back to where you grew up?  Did you take your children to China?

KG:  I took my two daughters go.  My son not go.  One time I wanted to take my oldest son, my daughter go.  The last time I let my youngest daughter go.  My oldest daughter no like it.

JM:  Did your younger daughter like it?

KG:  Well she don’t say nothing.  She said okay.

JM:  Do you miss China?  Would you like to?

KG:  What, say it again?

JM:  Do you miss China?

KG:  Oh yeah, I miss it a lot.  I liked it.

JM:  Have you all been to China?  Or your husband gone to China?

AG:  In Hong Kong, me and my husband in Hong Kong.

You meet him there.

AG:  Hong Kong is good.

BG:  They left for Hong Kong for a little while, then they came over here.  My mom has been always been in Hong Kong all of her life.

JM:  So you grew up in Hong Kong.

BG:  Yeah she said that.  She has been here.

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  I have been visited home three times.  1988, 1994, and 1996

JM:  Do you think you will go back for good?

AG:  I hope.  I have a lot of friends in Hong Kong.  My friend (Tape was not able to understand.)  They are American.

JM:  Are they not in the delta?  They are out of focus?

AG:  No

BG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

BillieG.:  Some in Texas and some in California

BG:  In Hawaii

JM:  In Hawaii

BG:  Yeah


JM:  I hope you go visit them a lot.

AG:  Yeah

KL:  How did you and your husband  meet?  You met in Hong Kong?  How did you meet?

AG:  At a party.

JM:  How long was he in Hong Kong?

AG:  How long? Who? You mean him?

JM:  Why did he go to Hong Kong?  He was here was he not?

BG:  I guess he went there (Tape was not able to understand.)

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  Yes is supposed to been.

BG: (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  Come back to Hong Kong to meet me.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  Yeah, he came back to Hong Kong and stayed about a whole year.  Then we got married.

BG:  Then you came back to China.

AG:   Yeah after work, Hong Kong.  We would stay there a half more year.  One year there then we immigrated here.  Hong Kong is where we got married.  We were going back.

JM:  When you got married did you know that you were going to come back the United States?

AG:  Yeah I know

JM:  That was his plan all along to come back.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  Yeah she went on a leash.

AG:  Yeah we were in Hong Kong to see a movie.  I called it America I thought it was New York City or LA or San Francisco

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  Look at the good stuff.  It is too quiet here.  I got used to it now.  The first three years so bored.  It is too quiet here.  I don’t have a (Tape was not able to understand.)  some friend.  (Tape was not able to understand.)  Another one is going to hit some friends.  I get used to it now. It is pretty good.

JM:  So you like it now?

AG:  Yeah it is pretty good.

BG:  Yeah I love it.

AG:  Pretty good, huh.

JM:  So you have grown relationships with the Chinese community in the delta?

BG:  Yeah my mom is like (Tape was not able to understand.)  Yeah she went to (Tape was not able to understand.)  just around the delta.

AG:  Me?  Yes we almost have a party somewhere.  Some wedding then baby newborn and stuff.

BG:  Any banquets or live parties you go to them.  They have so many reserved seats.  Like you come together.  Like people gets some party at Clarksdale, there is a party or banquet at Clarksdale.

AG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)  All members.

BG:  It is always like in Greenville, Clarksdale, or Memphis.  Those are the three locations.

JM:  Okay in Memphis is it people from the delta? Or is it people from all over?

BG:  From the delta mostly.

JM:  Describes some of the banquets and celebrations.  When a child is born, how is that celebrated?

BG:  Red Banquet.

KG:  Red

AG:  Red Egg

BG:  Red Egg Party

AG:  When the baby is one month old, you give the baby a red party.

BG:  Wearing red, that is all.

JM:  That is what happens.

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  Be the party for the baby.  Celebrate the baby.

BG:  Isn’t there a fountain anywhere?

AG:  Yeah

BG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)  We celebrate like birthdays.  We believe in earth days.

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to  understand.)

BG:  We will have to work on that.

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)  Not only Chinese girls.  (Tape was not able to understand.)


(Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  Chopsticks make a check, check.

BG:  Red Eggs, they put them on the table.  They die all the eggs red.  It is just a little symbol like Red Egg Banquet.  A lot of like.  It is like a big feast.  You just eat, drink and party and socialize.

BillieG.:  Don’t you eat at weddings too?

BG:  Weddings are different though.

KL:  Tell us about the weddings.

JM:  How are is it different?

JG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  Weddings are like a banquet you eat.  Like mostly the weddings you like have a church.

Someone is talking in the background that is unidentifiable.

BG:  You have a banquet.  You eat.  You talk about the family’s backgrounds everything.

JM:  They would talk about the families.

BG:  Yeah the families, basically where they came from.  Then there is like little traditions you give a kiss or something like that.  You make the chopsticks, rings.  You can have porcelain to.

BillieG.:  You can have glass.

BG:  Then what else do you do.

BillieG.:   Oh yeah there is a Tea Ceremony

BG:  Oh yeah there is a Tea Ceremony that is toward each parents.

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  Like the mother of the groom and the bride’s family meet up at the Tea Ceremony.

AG:  You get the tea.  The new couple will give the tea to the parents.  They will get married.  They have a new family.  This tea will give to the parents.  It is a thank you to the parents educated them.  (Dialog in Chinese)  Thank you to the parents.

BG:  Thank you for raising us.  It is like a reception.

KL:  Do you think you all will do this when you all get married?

BG:  Yeah

KG:  When my son married, my daughter-in-law live in (Tape was not able to understand.)  Really go open a restaurant.

JM:  Restaurant

KG:  They are cooking Chinese food many different kinds.

JM:  Nine different kinds?

KG:  Yes ma’am

JM:  What did you cook?

KG:  Mushrooms, chicken, duck, barbecue pork, soup, chop soey, and nine different kinds when they got married.

AG:  My (Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  Nine different kinds.

AG:  A long night forever to cook them separate.

KG:  Nine

KL:  The number nine?

AG:  The number nine

(Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  All of the Chinese believe in nine, a long life.

AG:  A long life forever.

KL:  Yeah the good number.

AG:  Yeah they go together forever no separates.

JM:  Like no divorce?

AG:  Yeah

KL:  No divorce?

BG:  Right

AG:  Forever, your whole life you go together the number nine.

JM:  Is there any divorce in the Chinese community in the delta?  Does that happen?

BG:  Yeah

(Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  Chinese build nice families.  They are not in any trouble including all get together.  I didn’t say nothing about America.

AG:  This is what they call.  In Hong Kong in the fifties a lot of people get a divorce.  (Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  They cook good food.  Some put too much salt.  The Chinese don’t eat it not through too many kind.  Little trouble, both walk cool out two days they are okay.  He will be fine.  Now America, I am not talking about Merigold.  I marry people it is a lot different.  It is not the closeness.  Chinese people are real close to their family.  We love the family.  Not easy getting married, not the easy trouble in America.  Sometimes cook in a steak not good that was cook two thirds in the men you like don’t like it or the husband don’t like it.  He is fine.  He pick up the suitcase and go.  Chinese is not true because we love the family.  We love the children.

JM:  Sacrifice a lot for the children?

AG:  Yes

JM:  What are some of the other differences that you see from well Hong Kong and China and America as far as the people?  How people relate?  How religion is a part of the lives?

AG:  I can’t think enough for China, Hong Kong.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  Those people, well typical honor.  Because China is a big country.

BG:  There are different dialects.

AG:  A little big poor.

JG:  On stand.

AG:  Really slow.  Hong Kong is fast modern city.  Very modern.  America is okay.  New York City is getting like Hong Kong.

BG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  America has a lot of churches.  (Tape was not able to understand.)  Hong Kong has a lot of churches too, but not that much.  China not that much.  China, people is almost.  (Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  Not to believe in God

AG:  Church group

KG:  China

BG:  I think mostly like Buddiest

and Atheism.  I don’t know.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

JM:  Are those of any traditions a part of the delta?

BG:  The religion ones?

JM:  Yeah

BG:  Well like we are kind of like Christians.  Well we kind of grew up with them.

JM:  With Christians.

BG:  We went PDS.  My grandma.

My Grandma is like both. (Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  My mom is like Christianity.

AG: Yeah my family.

BG:  Not like, you know if you break it up into is Christianity.

JM:  What about your husband is he a Christian is he?

AG:  No

JM:  Okay all right, you said you were Buddiest?

KG:  Not in a way.  I don’t go to the (Tape was not able to understand.)

(Tape was not able to understand.)

KL:  Her ancestors?

BG:  I don’t know sometimes.  Which one is it?

BillieG.:  I know (Tape was not able to understand.)  Might go to the cemetery.

BG:  The grave

BillieG.:  Some people might do it like yearly or whatever but we do it even though some of us we never knew it.  Like I don’t know.  (Tape was not able to understand.)

JM:   When you go to visit the graves, what do you do?  Is there a ceremony?

BG:  We just bow our heads in a way like three times to pay respects.  Yeah we just put fresh flowers.

KL:  One interviewing talking about good ghosts.  Have you ever heard any good ghost?

BG:  Yeah

KL:  Have you ever heard of anything like that.

BG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)  Bad spirits go away.  I don’t know what those are.

KL:  Come to warn you of something.

JG:  (Dialog in Chinese)

(Dialog in Chinese)

KG:  If you believe in the Buddha.

AG:  If the Chinese (Dialog in Chinese)

BG:  It is kind of like superstitions. You know bad or evil spirits. Like the devil, I guess you call it the Chinese devil.

Someone in the background that is unidentifiable.

JG:  They will follow you.

BG:  It will haunt you.

JM:  So it is not like when you die, the ghost will come get you.  While you are alive this ghost is just going to follow you around and harass you.

BG:  I guess.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  Basically it is like.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

(Dialog in Chinese.)

KG:  Men die.  No trouble.

BG:  So there is a need to be good on earth.  Say you like always have to be good.  When you don’t have to worry then.  When you do something bad.  That person will basically will haunt you.

KL:  That will keep people in line.

JM:  What is your relationship to everybody with the white  community when you first came here and then now?  Has it changed?

(Dialog in Chinese)

BillieG.:  (Dialog in Chinese.)

AG:  When I first came here I don’t know English.  Some customers in my store had white.  Some were black.  They would come to the store shopping.  They were nice to me.  They tried to talk to me.  I not able to say.  They were still nice to me.  Now they help me.

JM:  Did you take English, or have you just picked up English along the way?

BG:  She kind of learned a little bit.  She kind of picked up more of it than she learned.  She learned a few from the library.  She learned a lot of what she all ready knew before.

AG:  Hong Kong school has some English schools.  Some are Chinese school.  I slept in a Chinese school, a girl’s school.  My brother’s they all studied in an English school.  So they speak are English better than me a lot.  I studied in a Chinese school.  It had a little bit of English learned.

JM:  Did you say that the boy’s school, they learned English, and the girl’s school?

AG:  Oh, Hong Kong schools some are boy and girl school.  some just have a girl school.  I mean to high school.  Some are just a boy school.  People have some English school.  They take teach everything.  Almost an English teacher, math and everything except the Chinese they need to learn.  I studied in the Chinese school.  The math, science, everything.  I learned it all.  I learned the Chinese.

JM:  Did you go to college in Hong Kong?

BG:  Yeah

JM:  What did you study?

AG:  Business

KL:  What was a typical day like in the Chinese school?

BG:  In a Chinese school?

AG:  At school, same as here at school.  You learned the science, math.  It is the same way here.  They have a lot of teachers.  You have a Biology.  You have a Chemist teacher.  You have a Math Teacher teaching.  One teacher everything.

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  What time did school start?

BillieG.:  You know like

BG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

BillieG.:  You would learn?  Eight o’clock or 3 o’clock

AG:  Yeah in the public school, (Tape was not able to understand.)  You will go to.  For a long time yeah.  (Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  All you are young.  All of the (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  The teacher teaching from eight o’clock to four o’clock.  Twelve o’clock to one o’clock is a lunch break.  Two o’clock you had to put them in the break.

KL:  Were you able to go home for lunch, or did you have to stay?

AG:  I go stay at school.  I some time take a lunch.  Sometimes I would go to a restaurant.

BG:  See we don’t have that.

AG:  Parent gives me the money.  Go with my schoolmates. We take our lunch to our restaurant.

KL:  I know this is changing the subject a little bit.  How have you passed along values that you have learned in Hong Kong to your children?

BG:  Hong Kong her values.  It is kind of the same values.

KL:  Same thing.

BG:  Basically yeah

KL:  What kind of traditions, like cooking or  . . .

BG:  (Dialog in Chinese.)

AG:  We just have one.  That is one thing to cook.

BillieG.:  Like cook

JG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

(Dialog in Chinese)

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

JG:  I don’t know.

KL:  Same thing?

AG:  Same thing.  We teach them the same thing everyday.  Only the lasted people to learn things.

JM:  This question is for towards Bobbie and Billie.  How do you think your life here in the delta might be different than what you mom and dad’s life has been like or your grandmother’s life?

BillieG.:  In the delta?

BG:  We learned English.  That is one thing.

BillieG.:  I don’t think there is too much difference actually.  When I was seeing something.  If I was like in Hong Kong, or a big city here I would need the same thing.  I wouldn’t be any different from how I was raised.  Compared to how hard it is now.  I have it a lot more easier than they had it.  That is the only difference.

BG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)  I guess in a way also a lot different than theirs is like theirs is only made up of only Chinese people.  Here I have learned (Tape was not able to understand.)  Like my mom was in the city.  I grew up in a little country and thing.  So that is the only thing different.  Otherwise I think everything is the same value wise it is all the same.

JM:  Have you ever thought about going to Memphis?  Or you have come to like it?

BG:  Some form of it.

AG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

JM:  I know this is like a mess.  Okay, you can tell I have grew up here.

KL:  Have you either of you traveled around the United States?

BG:  Yeah we have traveled.  We have cousins in California.

AG:  San Francisco, L. A.,  New York, and Houston.

BG:  She has been to Texas and California and then New York.

KG:  Me, you mean you like it.

AG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  New York, San Francisco.  We have been to Chicago.  Scotland.

JM:  Do you have family there?

KG:  I have first cousins. (Tape was not able to understand.)  I like it.  I don’t like it.  It is too cold.  I like California better.

JM:  Have you traveled too?

BG:  Yeah we go to California like San Francisco and L. A.

BillieG:  Our families are there.

BG:  Hawaii

AG:  Must be in New York and Philadelphia.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

KL:  Who in your families most influenced you?

BG:  Us or?

KL:  Any of you?  Who has been your role model?

BG:  Nobody, no I guess grandmother for me.

BillieG.:  Like you know.

BG:  Who is an influence.  I don’t know.  (Dialog in Chinese.)

BillieG.:  (Dialog in Chinese)

BG:  You know. . .

AG:  (Dialog in Chinese)

JG:  (Dialog in Chinese)

BG:  Yeah

AG:  Whole family

JG:  (Dialog in Chinese.)

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

(Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  We should say our parents. My grandma, too.

JM:  How about you?

KG:  Me?

JM:  Yes

KG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)  my husband.

JM:  In what ways did your husband influence you?

KG:  Do what?  Say it again?

JM:  How did your husband influence you?

KG:  Because he was my husband because I loved him.  Because I like a strong man. I talk to me.

BillieG.:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  (Dialog in Chinese.)

KG:  Well I like it coming to America.  People in the American, they easy to let me come.  A lot of Chinese young ladies are married in America met in China.  Man come to Hong Kong to get married.  A lot of not used to coming there is no husband born in America.  You got W. W. II you go to the army.  He went there.  I married one morning.  I was coming to America.  A lot of people stay two or three years then they can come.

JM:  So you were able to come when you early?

KG:  Yeah

JM:  Did your husband speak Chinese?

KG:  Yeah a little bit.  He liked a on there.

JM:  Did you know English when you met your husband, or before you met your husband?

KG:  I go there talking a little bit Chinese.  I was teaching him.  He teaching English.  I teach them the Chinese.

JM:  Do you all have anything that you would like to talk about in particular about anything?

BG:  No

KL:  I heard that someone in Merigold.  I think Annette said that somebody had a nice garden.

AG:  Oh a garden, (Tape was not able to understand.)

KG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

KL:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  Both have gardens.

AG:  Yeah grandma has one.

BG:  They have garden that grow these Chinese vegetables.

AG:  Yes we have a garden almost two at a time.

JG:  Know how to grow everything.

AG:  (Tape was not able to understand.) (Dialog in Chinese)  One Chinese to pay for it to take to the garden.  I don’t know (Tape was not able to understand.)  It is not.  Only Chinese people in Merigold no more.  Just two families.

JM:  So there were more Chinese people here at one time?

JG:  No just two or three families that come to Merigold.  It was just three families in Chinese.  The only pass me.  (Tape was not able to understand.)  Both they are Gong.  I just thought about hard time.  Money can buy all the (Tape was not able to understand.)  Money can buy a neck load of time with hard work.  Do you understand that?

JM:  A little bit.

JG:  You have to have the money in your pocket.  You can buy coco and buy Chinese the green.

JM:  Oh you can’t.

JG:  The one time I go to Pageant Gong.  All in Chinese that means the Chinese green has been.

KL:  You can grow the Chinese greens (Tape was not able to understand.)

Someone in the background that is unidentifiable.

JG:  I  can buy it here.

JM:  One long (Tape was not able to understand.)

JG:  Yeah long bees yeah.

KL:   So you cook with this?

JG:  Yeah  I love this.

JM:  Chinese food with?

BG: Yeah it is good Chinese food.

JM:  Have you all learned to cook Chinese food like?


BG:  My grandma cooks all of the time.

AG:  Yeah she is a pretty good cook.

JM:  Did you cook for a lot of the banquets?

(Dialog in Chinese.)

AG:  Yeah

BG:  My grandmother has cooked some.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  Told me when my husband was in the hospital.  (Tape was not able to understand.)

JG:  (Dialog in Chinese.)

AG:  Why the banquet.

JM:  She cooked all of the food.

AG:  They are good too.  They have the little food.  They small food.

JM:  What she could cook.

AG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

KL:  Did you pass that along to your children?  Do they cook Chinese food well?

KG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)  Everyday

BG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)  It is like my friends like a lot of Asian food.  I think it is because you want to learn.  I don’t.

JM:  Do they speak Chinese?

BG:  They are different kind of Chinese.

JM:  Oh different okay.

BG:  Dialect they are like Tianese.  They speak inland.  (Tape was not able to understand.)

AG: How do you say that is a modern.  It is different.  We had the south. They have the north.  They speak that Mandarin.  We speak Cantonese.

BG:  Yeah, so they cook the meat different too.

JM:  I know that you all can speak Chinese, can you read and write the characters?

BG:  I learned a little.  I took a class at Texas.  They didn’t offer Cantonese. I took Mandarin.  The writing is still the same.  There writing is the same.  I can use a lot of traditional characters.  (Tape was not able to understand.)  That is traditional, the old fashion way.  That is harder and more strokes.  Some of it has changed a little.  It is like easier.  I learned a few.  There is so many.  It is hard to remember.  It is difficult to read.

AG:  In China there is more of a language difference.  Writing is the same in China.

BG:  Writing is the same.

AG:  Someone heard our language.  They speak language different than me.  I speak Cantonese. They speak (Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  It is like a different dialect.  Now and then they speak (Tape was not able to understand.)

(Dialog in Chinese.)

AG:  Yeah, Chinese has different kind of language.  Only they write the word same.  Language is all different.

JM: It is so different that it is difficult to understand people from different.

BG:  Right I really don’t understand my grandma.  I speak my mom’s.

JM:  She can understand you?

BG:  Sometimes.

(Tape was not able to understand.)

AG:  Sometimes.

JG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

KL:  Those two understand each other?

AG:  Yeah they do they are the same.

JM:  Roger was telling me that his son, you all would keep his son.  His first word was milk in Chinese.

AG:  I know.

JM:  One day he just said it.

AG:  (Tape was not able to understand.)

BG:  Good thing to.

AG:  I would teach them to say mine.  I speak Cantonese.  Hong Kong is Cantonese.

KL: You say it twice.

AG:  You let the kids speak. (Tape was not able to understand.)  The kids teach them to say Hong Kong.

BG:  It is not like a serious task.