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Ray <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay, this is Emily Weaver and I\u2019m here with Dr. Cameron McMillen and LePoint Smith and Mrs. Donna McCaleb to conduct an oral history interview on the Historic Neighborhood in downtown Cleveland.\u00a0 And we will be riding around in the DSU van looking at homes along the historic streets.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was on this lot.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There was a house right here.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There was one.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was a little house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 A little house.\u00a0 But I don\u2019t remember anyone that \u2026.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We are next door to the Jack\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, that was originally the Townsend House.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dr. Townsend.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about across the street?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was always a house.\u00a0 A friend of mine lived there who \u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Narcissa\u2026<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, Narcissa.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She had a dress shop there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 Mattingly.\u00a0 That was in the \u201850\u2019s, \u201840\u2019s or \u201850\u2019s.\u00a0 That\u2019s not very long ago.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember any house on the corner.\u00a0 Do you LePoint?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Over there where the lawyer\u2019s are.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 All these lawyers are newcomers.\u00a0 This was all houses.\u00a0 I\u2019ve forgotten who lived there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now who lived here?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dr. Townsend.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dr. Townsend.\u00a0 He was a dentist and he built this house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Emily has just pointed to the Jacks\u2019 house.\u00a0 I\u2019m doing that so we will know where we are.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Denton\u2019s lived there for a while after the Townsend\u2019s.\u00a0 And (inaudible).<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Young people call it the Denton House.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you have memories of parties there or anything?\u00a0 Visiting there?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not in my day.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They had a party for the Arts thing.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was recently.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was very nice.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Cause Gerald Jacks had his office here.\u00a0 And then he decided he was going to move to town and he sold this to his son.\u00a0 So that\u2019s Will\u2019s now.\u00a0 Will Jacks.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It still has Law Office on the plaque on the outside of the building.\u00a0 Alright, well we\u2019ll cross Shelby and keep going south.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was the Clark House. Mrs. E.T. Clark and her daughter Helen House lived here.\u00a0 And their son LaValle who is my age, he is still living but he is not well.\u00a0 He doesn\u2019t live here.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mimi Dossett lives here now.\u00a0 And the Dossett\u2019s bought it from LaValle didn\u2019t they?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember much going on in that house?\u00a0 Any activities.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, I\u2019m sure.\u00a0 No, Miss Helen didn\u2019t have any activities.\u00a0 I think one time, LaValle and I had birthday\u2019s close and one time when we were very small we had a birthday party.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well just looking at the street, were the trees like this or was it more open.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t this many trees.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember this house across the street?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What was the man that made clothes?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 He was a tailor.\u00a0 What was his name?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I can\u2019t think of it.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was it a wood house then?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And I don\u2019t remember any other old Clark\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is from Judge Clark \u2013 Governor Clark and General Clark \u2013 their descendents.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Related to Charlie Jacobs?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah they are related to Charlie.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m not sure of anything over there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There were not too many houses over there that I remember.\u00a0 There were a couple of little smaller wooden ones.\u00a0 I think they have been torn down.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Replaced with these?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now this one is interesting to us.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s been added to a lot.\u00a0 This was built by Mrs. Owens in the \u201830\u2019s.\u00a0 And I remember they ate lunch with us everyday while they were building this house.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know where they lived until they moved there.\u00a0 Her husband was Mr. Owen who had the \u2013 where the Coopwood thing is now.\u00a0 On the corner?\u00a0 That was the Owen Building.\u00a0 They call it the Smith Building which is entirely wrong.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is 204 Pearman.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well it was built by Mrs. Owen.\u00a0 Mrs. Thomas Owen.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It kind of stands out among the other houses around here.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s been enlarged.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 When was it built.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The \u201830\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So what was the original structure?\u00a0 You said it\u2019s been added on to.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It didn\u2019t have that side there.\u00a0 I think it had a screen door.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wow, I can\u2019t imagine.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was it considered modern?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Kinda different.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You know who lives there now?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who lives there now?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Routeman.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Routeman yes.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh okay, sure.\u00a0 And then the boy.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was the C.R. Smith house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Looks like they are doing a little work on it.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And Dr. Adams lives in there.\u00a0 But it went through several different hands after.\u00a0 They left it to a niece and she was supposed to live there and she lived there a little while and then moved away from Cleveland.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Growing up, did y\u2019all come down here very much?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0 I didn\u2019t. These are Jinko Trees.\u00a0 They are the only ones I know of in Cleveland.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There\u2019s one in the library yard.\u00a0 But they had this whole block.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The house at the end of the street is the Byrd B-Y-R-D Rooming House.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Like we would have been riding right into it right now.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And it was the front of this house that I came across to a foot bridge and went across the bayou.\u00a0 And that\u2019s how I got to the picture show to the other part of town.\u00a0 Across the footbridge.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They don\u2019t have that anymore.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And I think maybe this house might have been the only house on this street.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Aldridge\u2019s lived on it.\u00a0 Do you remember the Aldridge\u2019s?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, they didn\u2019t live on this street.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They did.\u00a0 They lived right over there.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Betty?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, not Betty.\u00a0 Another Aldridge family.\u00a0 Same name, just different family.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So this apartment complex\u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But it wasn\u2019t there at the time, it was a wooden structure there.\u00a0 It was a boarding house.\u00a0 The footbridge went right in front of it.\u00a0 Crossed the bayou.\u00a0 And I always took rocks so I could hit turtles.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did you ever hit any?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yep.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Has this road \u2013 Pearman, always turned into \u2013 what are we on now?\u00a0 Is this Roby?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 But all of this was vacant.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They had it developed probably.\u00a0 They had a lawn and everything.\u00a0 It was pretty.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Corrinne was the daughter of Smith that lived there.\u00a0 She was a mayor one time.\u00a0 She was on the Board of Aldermen and the mayor died and she was mayor temporarily.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The left one is the Nott Wheeler house.\u00a0 You\u2019ve got pictures of it in the Bolivar County History Book.\u00a0 That house and David Walt\u2019s house and my house were the only three families that still live in the same house.\u00a0 Now it\u2019s not but two.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Telephone Building there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t a rooming house it was the Wollard\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Willard\u2019s house.\u00a0 But they had roomers because Gin Thompson \u2013<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Willard?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This was the Christian Church when I knew it.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But I don\u2019t ever remember \u2013 this property belongs to the Wiggins Family.\u00a0 And there is some restriction about what they can do with it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now we are on Bolivar.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Bolivar.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where that apartment building is was the Echol\u2019s Home.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And the service station \u2013 Wattie Bishop\u2019s Service Station used to be right up here.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where the Bean Counter is now.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Well, it\u2019s this side of it now.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Y\u2019all remember going to the gas station?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now, was it like gas stations that we have today that you can go inside and get a cold drink?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah, and they serviced your car.\u00a0 Washed your windshield and they checked your tires.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now, tell me again.\u00a0 Who was it?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Willard\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is there a house here where (inaudible)?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Echol\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was the synagogue there?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes, it\u2019s been there a long time.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I told them my tale about the man who painted the synagogue.\u00a0 He didn\u2019t put any nails in the wood.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Camise\u2019s always lived here as far as I know.\u00a0 Do you remember anybody else?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did it look pretty much like that?\u00a0 Not much has changed? It does not have a front porch.\u00a0 Screened porch.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s the Ford\u2019s that live there now you know.\u00a0 (inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now, how about 203?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember who lived there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m aware that Mimi Dossett bought it and fixed it up.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 But I can\u2019t remember..<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Terrible Day Care thing there.\u00a0 It was awful.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s right.\u00a0 She said the children\u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, it was the next house LePoint.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, this was where the day care was.\u00a0 That was Boyd Atkinson\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Boyd Atkinson\u2019s next door neighbor.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Which one of these was the McDearman?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Right here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 202.\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 Now who was he?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He was an engineer.\u00a0 Wasn\u2019t he the county engineer?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think so.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I know Jackie Hart lived there at one time.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It looks like it\u2019s had a couple of additions.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 If Boyd Atkinson lived there \u2013 I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 Now a Delta State person lives there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was Dr. McClain.\u00a0 That was one of the original houses in Cleveland.\u00a0 Dr. McClain.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This pink house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was built for him.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So y\u2019all remember all of these houses, these structures being here, just not the people that lived here.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, just that one.\u00a0 This one was originally the Brown\u2019s built that house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who were the Brown\u2019s?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 He was president of Cleveland State Bank.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 208.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But he built the house right next door to June.\u00a0 The Brown house.\u00a0 They started out with this one and this one was a Dr. Carpenter.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The next one down.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Have ya\u2019ll ever talked to Eleanor Garrett?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 She won\u2019t talk?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She told things to the person that did the original survey and we have those comments and she told us she had told her everything she knew.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well all these houses were built about the same time.\u00a0 This was the Carpenter House and that was the Coleman House.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That would be Molly\u2019s Bed and Breakfast.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, no.\u00a0 The one in between.\u00a0 This was the Coleman House and on the corner was Minnie Ray.\u00a0 They made cookies at Christmas.\u00a0 It was a boarding house too.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Emily, can you back up a little bit?\u00a0 This concrete block and the horse behind it where people have put their \u2013 tied up their horses there\u2026<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s what it\u2019s for.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 212.\u00a0 Do you remember people doing that sort of thing?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I remember it being there for as long as I can remember.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 By the time we came along and I was born in 1920, the horses were not here.\u00a0 They all had cars.\u00a0 My grandmother was the first woman to drive in the county.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She did a lot of amazing things.\u00a0 I can tell how the houses kind of share a similar shingled look that is the same as the Carpenter House.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The same people that built\u00a0 &#8211; Nott Ward at the Lumber Company was the one that built them.\u00a0 And Toots Davis was a man, contractor, do you remember Toots Davis?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, I remember him.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Toots Davis?\u00a0 T-o-o-t-s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 His wife was a schoolteacher wasn\u2019t she?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I think so.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now tell me about Molly\u2019s?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Minnie Ray.\u00a0 Her old maid sister lived with her and they made cookies at Christmas, I remember that.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well they had a boarding house didn\u2019t they?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who used to live there?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Boarders.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She was a sister of Mrs. McPheetersthat lived on the corner of Leflore and Court and she had a gift shop where the library is.\u00a0 Mrs. Mitty was Mrs. Hetty\u2019s sister wasn\u2019t she?\u00a0 Donna, why don\u2019t you have your hearing aids on?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I can hear you.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Isn\u2019t that right?\u00a0 Mrs. Mitty was Mrs. Hetty\u2019s sister?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah they were sisters.\u00a0 Of course a lot of that trim stuff Floyd did.\u00a0 That wasn\u2019t on there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well you said they made cookies, Christmas cookies?\u00a0 You had to come get them?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I had to come get them.\u00a0 I lived on the next street.\u00a0 And I always, they\u2019d always give me a sample.\u00a0 And they made Hebrew cookies which makes the house smell so good.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What are Hebrew cookies?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Cause they had whiskey in them?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What was located on 225?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 That was all vacant.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Nothing here?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was part of the Smith business.\u00a0 And where my house is, the carriage house, was the garage.\u00a0 But up in there they had a servant\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So your house wasn\u2019t developed until they built this building?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wally Ashley\u2019s father, Billy Ashley and two others \u2013 Jack Nowell and D.M. Fleming, traveled all around looking for town houses.\u00a0 And then they bought this land, Billy did, and he built two of them, and he was going to go all around the corner but he died.\u00a0 So, he didn\u2019t build them, he built mine and the one next door on the other side.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright, well we\u2019ll keep going.\u00a0 We\u2019re crossing Lamar.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Lamar is what this is, yes.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Well I can tell you about the first person that lived in this house.\u00a0 Was a Mrs. Turner.\u00a0 Mrs. Doc Turner.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 300.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 She was the one that used to make Mike weigh the ice before he brought it into the house.\u00a0 Later on the Sawyer\u2019s lived here.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Berger\u2019s before the Sawyer\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Who?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Berger\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh, that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Jane and Jack bought it from the Berger\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do y\u2019all remember much going on there?\u00a0 Did they have children?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I remember the Turner\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Which one?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Turner\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh, the Turner\u2019s did not have any children and the Berger\u2019s had children.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Jack Sawyer had a studio.\u00a0 Photography studio in the back and he added that little part of it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And the Nott House across the street?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.\u00a0 That is one of the earliest houses in 1909.\u00a0 All of these houses were built about the same time.\u00a0 Nott Wheeler is in the oldest part right here.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Except on North Pearman.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now when we talked to Cherry and Nott, was it their generation or the generation before them that would have the big parties and dance.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 His grandmother.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, Mama Nott.\u00a0 We wore knickers and a cap.\u00a0 Little bitty things.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Get on the golf course and hit the ball about ten feet and go hit another ten feet.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I had a friend who caddied for him and he said he never did count, he\u2019d just go hit the ball and then he\u2019d go hit it again.\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember a house here.<\/p>\n<p>EM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At 302?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t either.<\/p>\n<p>EM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It looks like a small little house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember.<\/p>\n<p>EM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 How about 305?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember who lived over here LePoint?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Jackie Faulker is the only one \u2013 also Sandy Stephens (J.D.\u2019s family) lived in this block.\u00a0 I never did know anybody else over here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 One of the Delta State policeman lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Well I don\u2019t remember these houses.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You remember (inaudible) Bachman house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Mrs. Bachman is the teacher that threw erasers at you.\u00a0 Also held your hand like that and whipped you.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh no.\u00a0 Did she live there?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 She lived there yeah.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did you go trick or treating at her house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh Uh.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did the house look pretty much like it does now?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Pretty much like it did doesn\u2019t it LePoint?\u00a0 But a lot more growth of trees.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well I think it was better kept than this.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do y\u2019all know who lives there now?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Paul Kossman.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think he rents out some rooms.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At least one student lives in the home.\u00a0 I think there is more than one.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Bachman\u2019s didn\u2019t have those tall things there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The cypress?\u00a0 And what about across the street, at 307?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t get this far (inaudible).\u00a0 These houses I knew the back of them.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Then 308?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The next one was the Roby\u2019s house.\u00a0 Aunt Sydney\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Roby\u2019s and Sydney\u2019s?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Roby.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So her name was Sydney Roby?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sydney Roby.\u00a0 She was Betty Williams\u2019s aunt Donna.\u00a0 Cause Betty lived here.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh this was the house that the man came out of the back and shot the shotgun when we were stealing his watermelons.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was it this one?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was it Ed Roby?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I guess so.\u00a0 It was just a man I didn\u2019t wait to see who he was.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mrs. Miriam\u2019s brother may have been.\u00a0 Mrs. Miriam was in the house on Pearman \u2013 Owen\u2019s.\u00a0 She was a Roby before she was married.\u00a0 This was, I think Aunt Sydney had been married to some kin of Mother Hill\u2019s people.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember it being screened in or was it open?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was open.\u00a0 But Sydney never had that carport thing.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sure.\u00a0 Did she have a car?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay, well what about across the street?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know anything.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know any of those either.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They are close to needing a little repair.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Or they are in the middle of a little repair.\u00a0 It almost looks like they have scraped.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s been that way.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s Wally Ashley.\u00a0 This was built by Nott Wheeler\u2019s aunt, Dorothy Bacon nearly lived to be nearly a hundred.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And she owned the house that I live in.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh she does?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t think she ever lived there.\u00a0 If she did it was just a short period of time.\u00a0 She rented it out.\u00a0 Dr. Ringo lived there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dr. Ringold.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Ringold.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dorothy Bacon owned it?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She died a long time ago.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And I don\u2019t think \u2013 as far as I can tell she never lived there.\u00a0 She always rented it out.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This was the Hardee house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At 315?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ben Hardee.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He shot himself.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In that house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I think he shot himself in his law office.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Her name was Lois.\u00a0 She and my mother were good friends.\u00a0 Her mother (inaudible) were great friends.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s a great front porch.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was built like the Walt house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It looks a lot like it \u2013 similar with added gables.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And that was the Ward house.\u00a0 Nott Ward Lumber Company and this was the Ward house and then that other one on the corner and then it was the Nott house.\u00a0 This was Ward.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was Audley Shands built that house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And there\u2019 s another place to tie your horse up.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Right there in front of the Taylor\u2019s house? 400.\u00a0 Okay, now tell me again who.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was Dugas Shands.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dugar?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 D-u-g-a-s.\u00a0 He was the son of Mr. Shands.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And Dr. Reese lived here for awhile.\u00a0 Dr. Reese and Mary.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 403.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But it was built by Dugas\u2014Coopwood\u2019s there now.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Very pretty.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about this little house next door to them?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Can you think of the name of the couple that built that?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is this Betty on the corner?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, this one right here.\u00a0 This little small one by Betty.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I can\u2019t think of who built that but I know them, I knew them.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember when it was built?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It is relatively new but I remember it being built.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This one was built in 1912.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The sidewalk stops right in front of the house.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t go any further than right there.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Billy Ashley lived here at one time.\u00a0 Povall\u2019s lived down there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But it was built by the Shands\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The house on the left was built by \u2013 she was from Shaw.\u00a0 Her father had the lumber company down there.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Simpson?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 Who did she marry?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Which Simpson? Which one?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They built this house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Billy Thomas?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I believe it was.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mary Laura was a Simpson.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I believe that is who built this house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 407.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They ended up on Fifth Avenue.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Betty (inaudible) lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Jeff, DSU library director, bought that house on Fifth Avenue.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This is a relatively new house.\u00a0 W.C. Ray lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But nothing was past the Shands house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No nothing.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It used to be a house right down here but it would flood so that the city gave it to\u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They had to move it.\u00a0 Habitat bought it \u2013 got it.\u00a0 We moved the house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s the house that would have been right here?\u00a0 Where did they move it to?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Moved it to Boyle.\u00a0 They wouldn\u2019t insure it because it was flooded.\u00a0 And this house has been here a long time.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That little house?\u00a0 310 Roby?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who lived there Donna?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He was a dog fighter.\u00a0 Had a caf\u00e9 down on the highway.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Has it always looked pretty much like that, just little?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It didn\u2019t have the front porch coming out on it.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was it Frank Thomas?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, I can\u2019t think of it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright, well we are coming up on Leflore.\u00a0 So we will pause and start at the top again.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Would have houses with the railroad \u2013 trains going down that way.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And this was highway 61 right?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So we are fixing to turn on Leflore and we are fixing to go north.\u00a0 Now tell us about crossing the bayou right here?\u00a0 Was the Chinese Church \u2013 I mean restaurant here on the south side of it?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was a grocery store.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, that was a grocery store.\u00a0 This was vacant all along here.\u00a0 And the first tennis court in Cleveland was right about where that second house is.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember this house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That house was built by Bob Somerville probably in the early \u201820\u2019s or maybe before.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 518.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 About 18?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, 518 is the address.\u00a0 Was it a farm house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, she had a kindergarten there.\u00a0 We, all of us had went to the kindergarten.\u00a0 Went from kindergarten right to Hill Demonstration School in 1926.\u00a0 We started out in the second grade because we had been to her kindergarten.\u00a0 That was Mrs. Bob Somerville, Mrs. Keith Dockery\u2019s mother that had the kindergarten.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did Keith Dockery live there then?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 She grew up there.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And it is real close to Victoria and set so far back from Leflore, was there a story about that?<br \/>\nLS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Interesting.\u00a0 They never used much the back entrance.\u00a0 The Whittamore\u2019s did that I think.\u00a0 But it\u2019s always had the front entrance and circular drive.\u00a0 But Mrs. Keith after the kindergarten went to teach at the high school.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There\u2019s a building beside it that looks like it might have been a barn or something and now has almost a little apartment in it.\u00a0 It\u2019s a guest house on the side by Victoria.\u00a0 Was that built \u2013 do you remember that building?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It wouldn\u2019t have been \u2013 it would be recently.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is where the tennis court was at 517?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.\u00a0 Back in there.\u00a0 It was a Chinese family that lived in a house.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think it was either one of these, but a house that was here.\u00a0 And they owned the tennis court.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did you have to pay to play?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, we had to scrape the grass of the court.\u00a0 It was a dirt court.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So none of these houses were here.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, this was the Walt house right up there.\u00a0 That\u2019s where Dr. Walt\u2019s grandmother and daddy lived.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 513.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Which one was it LePoint?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think it was this one.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 513.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 But I\u2019m not sure.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about the brick houses across the street?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They weren\u2019t from here when I was here.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Would there have been a lot of traffic on this road since it was 61.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, it was a lot of traffic.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was mule traffic when I was little.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 Black topped too. It wasn\u2019t near this wide.\u00a0 Just about as wide as two strips down the middle.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We had three or four gins and the gins would be taking the cotton bales down to the compress.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember these two houses?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I remember \u2013 which one is it \u2013 no, I don\u2019t remember either one of these.\u00a0 I remember the last one up there.\u00a0 A person named Cecil Wright lived in it.\u00a0 I worked with her at the Welfare Office.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Which one is it?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The last one here, the little one.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 505?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright.\u00a0 Well tell me about Toots.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s the Davis family there.\u00a0 That\u2019s probably one of the earlier houses.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did we talk about him earlier, Toots?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Toots.\u00a0 He was a contractor or something builder for Nott Ward.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s why his name sounds familiar.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This house was Bob \u2013 Abe\u2019s Somerville\u2019s home.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 501.\u00a0 Do you remember going in it?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah.\u00a0 The daughter and I were the same age.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Joy.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And I think I broke her china head doll.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now is this the Sears house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is this the one that was bought from the Sears catalog?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know about that story?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 But it was out at Cleveland Crossing.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh okay.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s not there now that I know of.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was the Dedwyler house out there\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh uh.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 a Sears house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh uh.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You know what I\u2019m talking about?\u00a0 You can buy them, order a house from the Sears catalog?\u00a0 And they sent you everything, including the nails?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was the Daves house I think and Lindsey Meadors family, I think his mother lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In the green house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I thought Mary Alice Cates lived there at one time.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She did.\u00a0 She was a Meador wasn\u2019t she?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Lindsey\u2019s sister.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And then next to them?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s the Walt\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 All I remember this house was built recently.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Walt house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Walt house \u2013 that\u2019s one of the old houses.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And one of the Walt\u2019s girls \u2013 daughter\u2019s, Rebecca and Lefty Rowe lived there Donna.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At 413?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 What?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Rebecca and Lefty Rowe.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well do y\u2019all remember much going on at the Walt house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now this is Donna\u2019s street.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t. They didn\u2019t have any \u2013 their children were older.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t \u2013 I could come down this far but\u2026these are new houses.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was Lefty Rowe and that was Judge Simmons.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 408.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He was a judge.\u00a0 Had twin nieces.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about this one at 411?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember, they are fairly new I guess.\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember them.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You were talking about something about a compress?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Back there \u2013 back of us.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s all but torn down.\u00a0 It\u2019s on Memorial Drive.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And the road was much more narrow?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry, what?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The road was much more narrow?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah.\u00a0 Blacktop.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The compress was right where that big slab is beside it.\u00a0 What about 406?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is that the Simmons?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It was there and various families lived there.\u00a0 But I don\u2019t know who built it.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was Mrs. Fleming\u2019s house.\u00a0 DM Fleming\u2019s family.\u00a0 But it is relatively new too.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know the little brown house.\u00a0 But Mrs. Lidell lived in that one right there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But the Jarrett\u2019s lived there first.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Who?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Jarrett\u2019s.\u00a0 Jule and Jerry Jarrett.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah (inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They lived there before the Lidell\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s a nice front porch.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think it was screened one time.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright.\u00a0 What about this blue one.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Dr. Russell\u2019s family.\u00a0 (inaudible) Mrs. Russell.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 400.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright, we\u2019ll cross on over College.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This was the hospital.\u00a0 (inaudible) the hospital.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There you go.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 There wasn\u2019t anything on the corner.\u00a0 They were all vacant lots except that house right up there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019ll let this car pass.\u00a0 Do you remember going to that house or hospital?<br \/>\nDM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah. That\u2019s where I had my tonsils out.\u00a0 I walked from my house to the hospital with my bag to have my tonsils out, by myself.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 How old were you?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I was probably five or six.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember this house, 314?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Mrs. Fletcher lived there.\u00a0 And then this house was a funeral home at one time.\u00a0 A funeral home.\u00a0 This is where my good friend Charles lived.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 313 was a funeral home.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And that was where Charles Clark lived.\u00a0 And she had apartments.\u00a0 She had three apartments that she rented out.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In the house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Downstairs and to the south and had three apartments that she rented out.\u00a0 It has a basement.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was it always apartments?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Well when she moved there it was a big house and then she didn\u2019t need all that room\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And he died.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He died yeah, so she had apartments.\u00a0 Most of them were rented to teachers \u2013 the one that taught at the high school.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Were they related to the Clark\u2019s that lived in the house where Mimi Dossett lives?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Distant weren\u2019t they?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not real distant.\u00a0 All those Clark\u2019s (inaudible).\u00a0 They are pretty close.<\/p>\n<p>Her husband was Fred Clark who was I think the son of General Clark.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And it\u2019s still now apartments?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Apartments.\u00a0 I think so.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh uh.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think Gary had anybody renting, living in there beside (inaudible).<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Well we had fun though.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What would you do?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Well, Charles\u2019 brother sent him a picture machine.\u00a0 We\u2019d get in the stairs and go right up in the middle of the house. And we\u2019d put a sheet up and show the films on there.\u00a0 And the basement was fun in the summer, it was cool and we\u2019d go down there.\u00a0 And they had a servant\u2019s house behind this house and we played there.\u00a0 It was just a big house and cool in the summer.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The alley that runs back there.\u00a0 Would y\u2019all run up and down the alley.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah, and the bayou behind there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What did you use more, the road or the bayou?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh we used the bayou because we caught turtles, made rafts and dirt caves.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What is the name of the alley?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was just the alley.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think they had any of the ones behind the houses named.\u00a0 When was it built Donna?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 Our house was built in \u2013 well we moved there in \u201925 and I think I was about two or three years old, but I believe this house was built before then.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Then it has got a little bitty house in its shadow.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, that was the Bryant\u2019s house.\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 310.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Before then it was a Wright house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wright?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Somebody named Wright, but they didn\u2019t stay there very long.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It is awfully small.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Bryant\u2019s lived there.\u00a0 He was a policeman.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Before the Bryant\u2019s house, the Wright\u2019s lived there.\u00a0 They were friends of my mother and daddy\u2019s.\u00a0 But they moved to Memphis.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Were there many people to move in and out of Cleveland or did most people just stay here?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think most of them stayed.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Most of them stayed.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was it a big deal when you saw a moving truck or somebody new moving to town?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 Especially if it was on your street.\u00a0 I know that the Krutz\u2019s built this house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 309.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What\u2019s happening here?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dana and Justin George live there now.\u00a0 I think they are building a house next door to them.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 See the Brown\u2019s house burned.\u00a0 And it was on this lot.\u00a0 Jane Brown\u2019that had the store on Hwy. 61.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible) company?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Bishop house was right here. It was a great big house and it was torn down.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where these duplex\u2019s are now?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wattie Bishop\u2019s mother and daddy lived there.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think they are building condo\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well they might be.\u00a0 But this house burned.\u00a0 And this is my house.\u00a0 This is where I live.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember when it burned?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.\u00a0 This is where I lived when I married.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 306.\u00a0 That one had pictures of your wedding didn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.\u00a0 It was very similar to that.\u00a0 Had a screened porch.\u00a0 My billy goat walked around those concrete \u2013 you can\u2019t see them because they are on the inside.\u00a0 He would walk around the concrete blocks and jump off.\u00a0 Okay, the Brown\u2019s lived over here and the Carpenter\u2019s built this house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was the carport there when you lived there.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, that\u2019s all been added.\u00a0 The carport and that room.\u00a0 Travis Carpenter built this house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But that was probably in the \u201840\u2019s or \u201850\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, it was later on.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now we are on North Leflore.\u00a0 Now what was right here?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Raines family.\u00a0 An old Cleveland family \u2013 none of them live here now.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What happened to their house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They tore it down.\u00a0 And then the little two story duplex that they tore down.\u00a0 It was a rental thing.\u00a0 And then Judge Green lived here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did the church always kind of look \u2013 you can tell where the additions were.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Kamien house was right here on the corner.\u00a0 And their garage was right about here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But all this property belonged to them?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Kamien\u2019s?\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 The church was built in 19 (inaudible).<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Judge Green.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Judge Green lived at 107?\u00a0 Is that Margaret Green.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was that her father or husband?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Husband.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So Margaret Green lived at 107.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did it always look like that?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t think it had that carport on there like that.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Cause it kind of\u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Looks funny.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah. It kind of looks like it\u2019s bent.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The carport was added on.\u00a0 That definitely was.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Kamien garage was about right here probably.\u00a0 Cause this was added on.\u00a0 This building to the church.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 109. \u00a0What can you tell us about that?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Edgar Brown built that.\u00a0 He did live over on South Bolivar in one of those early houses.\u00a0 He built this \u2013 there used to be a little green frame house there that burned and he built that, Mr. Brown, in probably the late \u201820\u2019s.\u00a0 Because this house was built in 1913 I think.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 111.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s mine.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Emily can you stop a second?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m going to go past it.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s where I grew up.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Can you tell us anything about the house on Court that is now the Baptist parsonage and Lee Aylward lives there?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was built by Mr. Kamien\u2019s brother, Sol Kamien in \u2013 well, I don\u2019t know when it was built because I remember it as a child.\u00a0 And then the Litton\u2019s lived there.\u00a0 Sol and his wife, Selena, and his wife moved to California.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And there\u2019s a swimming pool that belonged to that house right there?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was done by Mrs. John T. Smith.\u00a0 This is where the mayor of Cleveland lives right here.\u00a0 Roger Johnson was the mayor about thirty years.\u00a0 And he had a daughter exactly my age and we played together all the time and she died just recently up in Minnesota.\u00a0 But Mildred Smith the middle house and then she bought this and tore down the house and built this pool house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where Ned lives was the pool house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mildred just built the pool house.\u00a0 She lived in the house in the middle, right on the other side where Lee lives, was her home.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And 111 was where you lived?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Grew up.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay memories.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well I wasn\u2019t quite as wild as Donna.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Were those stained glass windows always there?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They\u2019re beautiful.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m going to back up just a bit.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Cause there was a house \u2013 we had a servant\u2019s house back there and a \u2026<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So you can see it from the front (inaudible).<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And there was another house right there on the lot.\u00a0 It was a rental house.\u00a0 The Outz\u2019s lived there and the Kaplan\u2019s lived there.\u00a0 And the next house was the Rabbi\u2019s house.\u00a0 So I guess \u2013 Was Mr. Weinstein a Rabbi Donna?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He was a lawyer.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 He was?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.\u00a0 Cause my mother used to say her three best friends husbands\u2019 all killed themselves.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mr. Weinstein did?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.\u00a0 Mr. Hardeen and Mr. Howell.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well Mr. Weinstein probably couldn\u2019t stand Fannie.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 She would start at the Methodist Church and she would start blowing her horn for her cook to come out and to get the groceries out of the car.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You remember that?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 She had rental property too and she\u2019d go down the street blowing her horn on a Sunday morning to collect her rent. \u00a0They all came out of the houses to pay her their rent.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was the rental house that was between the two houses \u2013 was that your family\u2019s or hers?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Hers I think.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What happened to that house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Moved. It was just plain moved.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So where would you have parked the car?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The driveway. We had a curve just like at the courthouse too \u2013 all the way around.\u00a0 And I was thinking it might still be down that side but I don\u2019t see any.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t see anything.\u00a0 Like where that magnolia is?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm. Is there a curb there?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No m\u2019am.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There was a curb all the way around it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh, the little concrete?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At the end?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes, that is.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was all the way around.\u00a0 We had a servant\u2019s house in the back and then all the way back was an empty lot where we had a barn.\u00a0 Had a cow and my daddy came in one day and he was getting ready to shoot the cow.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh no.\u00a0 What had the cow done?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Had switched her tail in his face.\u00a0 So my mother begged him not to kill the cow.\u00a0 But they milked every day and we churned.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You did?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You made butter?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 I spent \u2013 when Mrs. Doolittle started the Demonstration School, my grandmother built the duplex back there.\u00a0 And Miss Doolittle lived there.\u00a0 Do you know Miss Doolittle?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yes.\u00a0 Well I know who she is but I don\u2019t \u2013 I know she\u2019s sweet.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She was great.\u00a0 She was headmaster, or whatever you called it then.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She was in charge.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 We had a\u2026.<\/p>\n<p><em>Side B<\/em><\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wasn\u2019t that the second side?\u00a0 The first tape just stopped.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright so you didn\u2019t care for the Demonstration School students?<\/p>\n<p>Well what did y\u2019all do to her?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They were strangers.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There were about twenty or thirty of us \u2013 there is a picture in one of the books up there of the class.\u00a0 LaValle House is one of them.\u00a0 He lived in that house on the corner where Mimi Dossett is.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now you had brothers?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I had two brothers.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Were they older or younger?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Younger.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Younger?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did you tell them what to do?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I beat them up until they could beat me up.\u00a0 And then I\u2019d run upstairs and lock myself in the bathroom.\u00a0 I was \u2013 they were both born in this house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where were you born?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In Memphis.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In Memphis.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The house was built \u2013 I don\u2019t know why they took \u2013 she went to Memphis because they lived in Cleveland.\u00a0 They lived over on Pearman until \u2013 when my mother and father married they lived on Pearman where the funeral home is.\u00a0 And lived there until Mother Hill \u2013 she was living here by herself and she said, \u201cY\u2019all come over here and live.\u201d\u00a0 And I think daddy said, \u201cNo.\u201d\u00a0 She said, \u201cWell I\u2019ll build a room on your house.\u201d\u00a0 So he said, \u201cOkay.\u201d\u00a0 He gave in.\u00a0 But it was a big mistake because it was always her house instead of my mother\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.\u00a0 I can understand how that happened.\u00a0\u00a0 So you grew up with your grandmother in the house with you?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.\u00a0 But we didn\u2019t bother that three generations \u2013 that didn\u2019t matter.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It matters now.\u00a0 People don\u2019t want to have people living with them.\u00a0 Any old people with them.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Would you do that?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No I wouldn\u2019t do that.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was a house full.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was a house full.\u00a0 One time we had four generations.\u00a0 Her mother was there for a year or two.\u00a0 Mother Hill\u2019s mother.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wow.\u00a0 Is that what you called her?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mother Hill.\u00a0 That\u2019s what I called my grandmother was Mother Hill.\u00a0 And she intimidated everybody in town.\u00a0 Didn\u2019t she Donna?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 What?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mother Hill intimidated people.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I barely remember her.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She was a post master beginning in 1933 and was the first person in Bolivar County to drive.\u00a0 She ran for Superintendent of Education the year that women could vote.\u00a0 She was quite a human being.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She was up there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Her mother lived there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She and Lucy would have gotten along well.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Miss Lucy?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They were friends.\u00a0 But Gon-gar was her mother.\u00a0 We called her Gon-gar.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Gongar.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And she was there for a couple of years.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did y\u2019all have special holidays or celebrations in that house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah.\u00a0 June continued it more than we did.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What would y\u2019all do?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Big Christmas\u2019.\u00a0 Gracious living. Very lovely dinners and stuff.\u00a0 Christmas, Thanksgiving.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know what June is going to do now in her little bitty house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well we\u2019ll keep moving on down the road.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was Fannie.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Fannie Weinstein.\u00a0 And there was a house right here that the Terry\u2019s lived \u2013 no the Terry\u2019s lived right there.\u00a0 There wasn\u2019t anything here.\u00a0 The Terry\u2019s lived here.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At (inaudible 226?)<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And that wasn\u2019t there.\u00a0 And this was where Nan\u2019s grandmother, Ann Steen, but it was originally Cully Roberts Sr. lived there.\u00a0 And there were three boys that lived there that we all played with.\u00a0 They even built a little ferris wheel out here in the yard.\u00a0 But that house, Ann has done a lot to it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Would you come over here when Ann was growing up?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She didn\u2019t grow up here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh okay.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know where the Nemitz lived \u2013 she was a Nemitz.\u00a0 Where did they live Donna?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 I\u2019m not familiar with this part of town.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She told us they lived at the Floyd Hotel for a while and then moved here.\u00a0 But she moved to Cleveland, Ohio and back and forth some when she was growing up.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, cause her mother had the Floyd Hotel.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Her grandmother.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Grandmother yeah.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This house was not there but it was a house where William Earl Kent \u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah right.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And what was \u2013 Jewish family?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Jacob\u2019s?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, it was Miriam\u2019s parents.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 I can\u2019t think of their name.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And this right here was a doctor \u2013 a dentist, Dr. Butler, Dr. Louis Butler.<\/p>\n<p>He died and his wife stayed there.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Capps.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I really don\u2019t know who lived much along here.\u00a0 The Capps built this house.\u00a0 Charlie\u2019s \u2013 Charlie Capps\u2019 parents.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 212.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was probably in the \u201830\u2019s.\u00a0 June McClendon lives there now.\u00a0 It was some Jennings that lived along here Donna.\u00a0 Do you know any Jennings?\u00a0 Some Jennings lived in one of these houses.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know anything about 207?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Sibley\u2019s lived there at one time.\u00a0 He was a policeman.\u00a0 Sibley.\u00a0 But I don\u2019t know who built it.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 All of this was rental except the one that is down here \u2013 (inaudible) with all the windows.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Shoenholtz lived along here once.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Shoenholtz lived where all that glass is.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about this one right here, the 209?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Mrs. Nunnaly I believe lived there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now who was she?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I think she is the one that had the boarding house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Along here?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Along the left side over here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was a boarding house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Well she had meals \u2013 you just came in for lunch.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh okay.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Just a noon meal.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And what about the one next to it?\u00a0 211?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 What was her name?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mr. Ashley lived there.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Mr. Ashley lived there last.\u00a0 But he didn\u2019t buy it.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know who lived there before.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And this was the Shoenholtz at 222?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Mr. Shoenholtz was real active with the fire department.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And the American Legion.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 That was Judge Roberts.\u00a0 J.C. Roberts home.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 213.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Where did the Nelson\u2019s live?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There.\u00a0 The Nelson\u2019s live there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 After them?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 After.\u00a0 The Roberts built it.\u00a0 They lived there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It looked pretty much like that?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Probably didn\u2019t have a carport.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Didn\u2019t have a carport.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s a nice front porch.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s a nice house.\u00a0 They had a son my age \u2013 the Roberts did.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did you go there for any events?\u00a0 Any parties?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 That on the corner was a rental house.\u00a0 We had parties there.\u00a0 Trixie Mackie lived there.\u00a0 Had parties when she was there.\u00a0 She moved away.\u00a0 And this is the Sam Montgomery house.\u00a0 You have to look up about Sam and Minnie Montgomery.\u00a0 I think he was a Civil War veteran.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well now on the second floor is apartments.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Where was the beauty parlor?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Around the corner.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, Ms. Mamie Sultens Boatwright lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mamie.\u00a0 Did Mamie buy this and live there awhile?\u00a0 Now that was the rental property that faced Leflore and a lot of different people lived there.\u00a0 Charlie Jacobs lived there at one time.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 When it was rental property?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Probably.\u00a0 They were moving back and forth between Rosedale and Cleveland.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I lived here.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did you?\u00a0 Mamie had already died hadn\u2019t she?\u00a0 I\u2019m talking about (inaudible).<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes m\u2019am.\u00a0 Just (inaudible).\u00a0 And her beauty parlor was around the corner.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where Boone has his law firm was a beauty parlor and then across the street they had the beauty parlor before they built that one.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think if we did\u2026<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 Now we are on Bolivar.\u00a0 222.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This one over here \u2026<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was where the beauty parlor was wasn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 On the corner, is that the corner?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And then the next one was the Williams house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Kaplan?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Williams.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Williams.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 He ran Denton\u2019s and \u2026Howard.\u00a0 One of Howard Williams.\u00a0 He was the mayor at one time.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He was the sheriff?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was he sheriff?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.\u00a0 He beat my dad.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh you remember that then?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I do.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was Mrs. Winston\u2019s house, I think a teacher at DSC.\u00a0 And I don\u2019t know what \u2013 did she teach anything?\u00a0 What did she do Donna?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I know she sang in the choir with my grandmother.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s Victor\u2026<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s Sherwood\u2019s.\u00a0 The Sherwood\u2019s live there now.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This was Dr. Wiggins.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wiggins.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 215.\u00a0 We talked about the Wiggins earlier.\u00a0 But let\u2019s talk about this before we go.\u00a0 You said the Wiggins property or something earlier?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is that the same Wiggins?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Related yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about this house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What other Wiggins?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Where did Vivian Kaplan live?\u00a0 She lived right along here in one of these houses.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know which one it was.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know which one, they\u2019ve been remodeled and I can\u2019t\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But that was Dr. Wiggins and his son was A.C. and Lawrence.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about this one?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know about that one it might have been Kaplan.\u00a0 Somewhere along here the Kaplan\u2019s (inaudible).\u00a0 Moved this one and moved over to June\u2019s.\u00a0 But that was originally a Gynes house which was Charlie Capps grandmother\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 213.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes it would have been.\u00a0 But that was a Gynes.\u00a0 And then it got to be rental property after the Gynes died.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Lovely.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 See the concrete.\u00a0 That is where that was around the house up on the corner of\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That Mimi lived in.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Brian Varner lived there \u2013 used to have that.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright.\u00a0 Any of these others spur thoughts?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was fairly new.\u00a0 It was built by Roberta\u2019s sister.\u00a0 Viola Ingram.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright, I\u2019ll keep going.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Miss Cora.\u00a0 Didn\u2019t Miss Cora live here?\u00a0 Miss Cora Smith?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And she was a sister to C.R. Smith and Milton Smith.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 209.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Mr. Williford \u2013 which one did he live in?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That one.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know anything about 207?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 June and Nap used to live there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But I don\u2019t know who lived there \u2013 they didn\u2019t live there in the late \u201850\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Did the Thweatt\u2019s ever live here?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Thweatt\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You mean Martin and Sue?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Her mother.\u00a0 Mr. and Mrs. Thweatt.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not that I remember.\u00a0 I only remember them living close to the college.<\/p>\n<p>Kay Strickland lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This one.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Frieda comments about that red door every time we pass it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What\u2019s wrong with that red door.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This was \u2013 the one on the right \u2013 Bradford.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was the Graham house, Arthur Graham.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 205.\u00a0 And the Westbrook\u2019s lived in it and then the Bradford\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He had the Chevrolet place.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know what Cousin Arthur did.\u00a0 He was a cousin of my grandmother\u2019s.\u00a0 He and his wife built it.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And was there a house on the corner here?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes, that was the Perry\u2019s.\u00a0 This was Roberta Smith Wiggins.\u00a0 And it was her daughter that inherited the one that lives behind me.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It was a big white house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was the Perry\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why is it gone?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Baptist\u2019s bought it and tore it down.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We heard that was the oldest tree in Cleveland.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I wouldn\u2019t know.\u00a0 It used to be the church was on this corner and there was a little house right next door to it and then a duplex right next door to that in here.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And the jail used to be on this side of the court house.\u00a0 Three stories.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They said they would hang people.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mack Grimmett still talks about it.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And this is where Sol Kamien built his house and used to have a porch across the front and\u2026<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Beautiful door.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Litton\u2019s lived there and some other people till Mildred bought it probably \u2013 Mildred probably bought it in the \u201840\u2019s.\u00a0 And they built the pool house pretty quick.\u00a0 Tore down Mrs. Rhea\u2019s house.\u00a0 With a load of cotton.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 School\u2019s going to be out in a minute.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s a good thing we are doing Pearman now.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Traffic is never quite so entertaining as it is when school starts back again.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m telling you.\u00a0 Start directing some traffic.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Now this was the famous Keen Freeze.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah where it used to be.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah that\u2019s where the Keen Freeze used to be.\u00a0 My husband had it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 To the right, the Keen Freeze was right here.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where the (inaudible).<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Right in the middle of this lot.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The UPS truck is bringing me an order today from (inaudible).<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Lots of good things happened at the Keen Freeze?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah.\u00a0 A lot of good food. (Inaudible) last food place.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know anything about this.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Little Bun lives there now?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who?<br \/>\nDM:\u00a0\u00a0 Little Bun.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who\u2019s Little Bun?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible)?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 What was her last name?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Davidson<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 At one time there was a park over there.\u00a0 One summer.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where the medical care is?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 Just for one summer they had a park, supervised activities, Chinese checkers.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Over there where that building is to your left.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know more about that house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Little Bun lived there?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 What\u2019s her last name?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I can\u2019t think of it Donna.\u00a0 I\u2019ll go get my UDC book and she\u2019s in there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright the next one?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That house is old.\u00a0 It\u2019s probably the oldest in town.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It was the Pearman house.\u00a0 Mrs. Pearl lived there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think that is the oldest house in town.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It says 1884.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Right along in here and on Pearman, I mean on South Bolivar are the oldest houses.\u00a0 This one and there was a little frame house where the funeral home is.\u00a0 I think that was where my grandmother lived before they built their house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We are on Pearman now.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know who built that house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was one of these houses moved to this site?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The one on the corner.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Let\u2019s go down there and talk about that.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 That was recent.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about all those businesses across the street?\u00a0 Was it open to (inaudible)?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Wasn\u2019t any of these buildings for a long time.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The American Legion was down here.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah it\u2019s an older building.\u00a0 The welfare office was in about \u201950.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was where my grandmother lived where I was living before she made us move over to the big house.\u00a0 Right here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where the Brandon Mortuary is which used to be Thweatt-King.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And then nothing along here except that this was the American Legion, wasn\u2019t it Donna?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This building.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, this one.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The welfare office was the Legion Hut.\u00a0 Yeah, it\u2019s an old building.\u00a0 They used to have dances there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Shindigs and lots of fun?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What are the blue things for?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Child welfare, like the young ones are \u2013 child abuse.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is this the house that was moved?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, the next one.\u00a0 This is the Joe Smith house.\u00a0 It was built in 1905.\u00a0 I can read the sign.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is an old house.\u00a0 This was moved over there close to the Cleveland State Bank.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay this house?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was the Baptist parsonage?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh I see.\u00a0 And it once stood where?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Across town by the Cleveland State Bank, somewhere in that area?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 1888 to 1907.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The one on the highway.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh, I know what you are talking about.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This was Denton\u2019s where we all swam.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And the pool was just behind this building?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Behind the building.\u00a0 Right up here where the sign is.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And the marker.\u00a0 You see that marker right there?\u00a0 They let out school for all of us to come up for that dedication.\u00a0 Whatever it was, I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This used to have a glass front \u2013 this used to be a car place.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And they had sandwiches and ice cream.\u00a0 And behind it was the swimming pool.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Our mother\u2019s used to blow the horn and get a coca-cola.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What do you think they would do if we just drove up and honked today?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Just look at us funny?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And at one time when these lots were vacant they had a skating rink in there.\u00a0 You know one of those where they would have big tent people come there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Big tent people?\u00a0 Circus people?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, it wouldn\u2019t be a circus.\u00a0 It would be a revivalist.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This building over here used to be a health department at one time up on the second floor.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was the Owen Building too.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And they need to fix that back?\u00a0 And say Owen instead of Smith?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, the Owen Building.\u00a0 Mr. Owen built it.\u00a0 The one that lived down the street.\u00a0 And then he died in the flu epidemic in 1919 or 1918.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019d walk up those steps and get my typhoid shot.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You took yourself to get shots?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh bless your heart.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It hurt too.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And it was sore too.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mr. Owen \u2013 Mr. Roberts might have been in with him\u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 See the long \u2013 see the concrete.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was around my house too.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And they had a caf\u00e9 in there called Mattie\u2019s Caf\u00e9 right along here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Right along in here?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was part of the drug \u2013 part of the service station.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh okay.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember anything about this house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, this was the Nowell\u2019s house.\u00a0 Nowell Lumber Company?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s where Jack grew up.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think this was the best thing to do and miss the school traffic.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was the Causey house.\u00a0 This is where the Catholic Church was.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Right there where those apartments are?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.\u00a0 First Catholic Church.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright.\u00a0 What about those sidewalks?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Must have been put there by them.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember that at all?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was the Causey house.\u00a0 Mr. and Mrs. Causey were married in my grandmother\u2019s house.\u00a0 He was a lawyer and she always walked about two feet behind him.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, he wouldn\u2019t let her walk next to him.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know when or why they put that stone fence surround?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 People who lived there just put it up.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright we are taking \u2013 is this First \u2013 to get to Victoria.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know much about this street.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This isn\u2019t going to be a part of the neighborhood.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.\u00a0 Cause this was the low part of town, it got under water.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well from the rain yesterday it still has got a little bit of dribble.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dot was on Third \u2013 Second?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 (inaudible) on this street.\u00a0 (inaudible) house over yonder.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In that church?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is 600.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 LePoint, who lived in that old house over there?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Davis.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Davis, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is 600 Sunflower Road.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Jack Davis and Dot Davis.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This house on the corner which is Tindle\u2019s dentist was Julia Moore\u2019s grandmother\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Gibert.\u00a0 But it wasn\u2019t like that.\u00a0 This house, H.L. lived in it, Martin and Sue lived in it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 H.L. Nowell?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Really!<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible) the Feduccia house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The brick one? \u00a0The yellow brick one at 214?\u00a0 We are on Victoria now.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That is \u2013 what\u2019s \u2013 Betsy Bobo\u2019s mother lives there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Really.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 AT 214?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is that the first house?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think that\u2019s it.\u00a0 It might have been the next one.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, that\u2019s the Feduccia house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s the Feduccia house at 214?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think so.\u00a0 I think the next one is the Bobo house.\u00a0 Yeah, that\u2019s the Bobo house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 212.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s where Betsy grew up?\u00a0 Okay.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about 217?\u00a0 It has recently been painted and remodeled.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 These are little \u2013 the houses are so close together.\u00a0 Were these houses always like this?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think they are fairly new ones.\u00a0 There\u2019s one down here that my grandmother \u2013 a little bitty house that she built for rental property.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about 210?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yance Ray lived along here didn\u2019t he?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Who?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yance Ray.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 On up a little bit further yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember anything about 209?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t.\u00a0 Oh this was where Cousin Lillah lived Donna.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 207?\u00a0 And who was Cousin Lilah?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Lila Mitchell.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And 207 is where Jenny Lucas grew up.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 2 \u2013 0 what?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 207.\u00a0 Jenny Lucas grew up there.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In this one? Her mom and dad were named Sanders.\u00a0 That\u2019s where they lived.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But who did you say?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Mitchell\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Lilah Mitchell?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They lived over in (inaudible) and moved over here because Mother Hill was over here I guess.\u00a0 She had a black \u2013 a young black woman that lived with her and I played with her all the time.\u00a0 I mean with Jaunita Mitchell.\u00a0 And she brought her with her from the hills and she \u2013 I used to go to the picture show and we\u2019d go upstairs and sit with her because she couldn\u2019t sit downstairs.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh.\u00a0 Which theater?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She finally ran away.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She ran away?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She could read and write and it was a terrible place for her to be.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Any of these other houses ring bells or memories?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This might have been the Mitchell house.\u00a0 Mother Hill built that little house just to rent.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 203 was the rental house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And she sold it to somebody.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know anything about 202?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Kearneys.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was the Yance Ray house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No it\u2019s not.\u00a0 Yance Ray\u2019s house is up on the corner.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is a corner.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The other corner.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The corner down there was the Nowell\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember 201?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019ll bet that was Yance Ray\u2019s house.\u00a0 I\u2019ll argue with Donna.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m going to argue with you.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This corner you think it was?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Right there?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well who was there?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know anything about 117?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It might have been a little house for the Hill Building.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is the one that we\u2019ve been told was the Methodist parsonage and then we\u2019ve been told that\u2019s not true.\u00a0 But the windows are so dirty you can hardly tell.\u00a0 Three up at the top of the two side windows, and I believe the one over the front door are all stained glass.\u00a0 Do you know anything about that house or whether or not it was the Methodist parsonage.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No I don\u2019t. It looks like an old house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know anything about this house across the street.\u00a0 It\u2019s 114.\u00a0 And it\u2019s the only one on this block that the electricity comes from highway 8.\u00a0 The rest of us all come from that transformer back there.\u00a0 So we think it may be the oldest one.\u00a0 When the rest of us lose electricity they still have it.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They still have it huh?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know anything about that house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, I don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And I think Nancy Bobo at some point lived in this brown house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 At one time the Bobo\u2019s lived along here.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019ve been told it is that brown house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 May be.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Some of the things we\u2019ve been told have turned out not to be true.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well Nancy Bobo is sort of Elliott isn\u2019t she?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know anything about this?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 One of these was Dr. Ringold\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.\u00a0 That\u2019s where she lived.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And that\u2019s the one with the flag and that\u2019s where I live.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And this is the duplex that my grandmother built.\u00a0 That\u2019s why it\u2019s straight behind my house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And it\u2019s a little bit more attractive than some of the others. Do you know anything about this house LePoint?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This one?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.\u00a0 Other than Dr. Ringold lived there?\u00a0 That\u2019s my house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s where you live?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So I\u2019m real curious.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Sadie Mae.\u00a0 Where did Sadie Mae live?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t think she lives in Cleveland.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No she didn\u2019t.\u00a0 The Beevers lived in that house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That would be 108 \u2013 106 I believe.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And Mrs. Darby lived here.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At 107.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible) Darby.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible) said she had lots of roses.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.\u00a0 Mrs. Darby and then\u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Mrs. Hayles.\u00a0 It must have been Mrs. Hales lived in the next house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And that would be 103.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dr. Daughrity built this house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 104 Dr. Daughrity \u2013 what was his name?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Dr. Daughrity.\u00a0 He was at Delta State.\u00a0 English.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And we also heard that there was a house between the Sledge\u2019s house and this house.\u00a0 Do you remember that?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Here?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In here.\u00a0 There was a house here that burned and then Steven said there was a house between those two houses at one point.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Elmore lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 At 101?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who lives there?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And who is that?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think he was a pretty prominent man in Cleveland and he must have died young or something.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s one of the older houses too.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mrs. who lived there?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do y\u2019all have any memories of the big old house on the corner of Court and Victoria?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I call it the Dakin house but LePoint said there was somebody there before them.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Did they ever have parties or entertain?\u00a0 Or a place that people went to a lot.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That house was built for Corrinne Smith when she married McLemore and it was their house and the wedding didn\u2019t last very long.\u00a0 But that was the first wedding in the Methodist Church and then they built this house and then Mr. \u2013 who was the bootlegger Donna?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Wakefield.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wakefield.\u00a0 And then the Wakefield\u2019s had it and then after the Wakefield\u2019s \u2013<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 When did the Dakin\u2019s get it?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well the Dakin\u2019s lived in one of those little houses where they used to have right by the Baptist Church on that place right in front of my house \u2013 Court.\u00a0 And the Wakefield\u2019s had it and Uncle Ed bought it. \u00a0Mother Hill\u2019s \u2013 when he and Alice married. And then later on he swapped that house \u2013 this house for the little house there by the Baptist Church.\u00a0 And the Dakin\u2019s go from there. But Sarah Ann was born here.\u00a0 She was born about 1933 and so he \u2013 that\u2019s when Uncle Ed had it.\u00a0 It was just a wonderful house. It\u2019s just a shame\u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 All one room upstairs.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But it\u2019s a shame that \u2013 and the Sweet woman, Hattie Davis, had done so much for us.\u00a0 And she got the \u2013 she had the history of it all done.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They used to teach out at Delta State.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I said Mrs. Sweet for ages.\u00a0 I had a party out there.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Did you know her?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes m\u2019am.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They did a lot of work.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They did a lot of work out there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s a shame \u2013 they say it\u2019s on a slough is the reason that it\u2019s \u2026<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You can see the brick coming apart.\u00a0 Coming off the walls.\u00a0 Right there, you see it where the gutter is how it\u2019s breaking apart?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They had done a lot of work on it inside.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And that is a misnomer saying that\u2019s a carriage house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I always thought it was.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was built at the same time that this house was built.\u00a0 It was really just a garage because it was built in 1920 and they didn\u2019t have carriages then.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They\u2019ve recently done a lot of work on the foundation on this house.\u00a0 Etta Race (inaudible) lived there at one time.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They lived there a long time.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now what about across the street?\u00a0 105 where the church is?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was built in the \u201850\u2019s and that was a duplex \u2013 107 was a duplex.\u00a0 Where did the Cable\u2019s live?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Around the corner.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think where Emmett lives.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We\u2019ll go on south.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This was a Tim\u2019s house.\u00a0 Lowry Tims.\u00a0 And that was built by one of the Myer\u2019s daughter\u2019s and her husband.\u00a0 Carl and Mary Jane Nichols built it. I think they put a couple of shotgun houses together.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 201.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now Johnny Arnold, well Jimmy Sanders lived there.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 John lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay 206.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This is Mrs. Eason\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who is Mrs. Eason?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Eason.\u00a0 They had Planter\u2019s Equipment.\u00a0 I think 203.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s one of the Fleming.\u00a0 D.M. Fleming\u2019s wife.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 When y\u2019all were growing up, when you were younger girls, how much of this street was here?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Not any of these houses.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not any of these houses?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Not I can remember.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The east side or the west side \u2013 both of them were pretty clear?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Pretty clear.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Myer\u2019s might have been \u2013 the little one.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The little one bedroom.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 One of the Myer\u2019s daughters.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Ruby Rovenhorst built it didn\u2019t she?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No she didn\u2019t build it.\u00a0 Sister and Cully built it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Anna Long used to live there.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 She lived in a lot of places.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is true.\u00a0 What about any of these?\u00a0 When did these come around?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 These houses?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Mhmm.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 \u201830\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So y\u2019all watched them being built?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 And this was the Carpenter\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And that\u2019s the one where the fire was?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t like that, I mean it\u2019s been remodeled.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But was it this house?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah it was the house.\u00a0 It has just been remodeled.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Where is Penny\u2019s house?\u00a0 Have we passed it?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s what they are doing to the house we fixed.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is that Penny\u2019s house that they are doing?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, the one next to it.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well T.D. Wood said his house was built in \u201939. \u00a0Penny and Willard\u2019s house and Lemon\u2019s across the street.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 There\u2019s Mrs. Lemon\u2019s and Willard Samuel and Penny.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well Happy Pleasant lived along here.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 They lived in the house right behind my house because we sold the lot to him.\u00a0 Probably this house I believe.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 305?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I can\u2019t remember.\u00a0 Directly behind my house on Leflore Street.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I believe it is.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This one?\u00a0 This was the Janoush house.\u00a0 The old Janoush house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Which one?\u00a0 The white one?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible) was a friend of mine and we used to go \u2013 there was a bayou behind his house that I crossed.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And that\u2019s 311.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Happy \u2013 the Pleasant\u2019s had a \u2013 Thelma (inaudible) had a house behind it.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Thelma did?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.\u00a0 (inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This house has a storm cellar on the side of it.\u00a0 Had a storm cellar.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 311 did?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Whose was it?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 None of these houses.\u00a0 There was one house on this side but I can\u2019t remember which one.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you remember when this house was built?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s the only Frank Lloyd Wright house in town \u2013 inspired house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Frank Lloyd \u2013 oh.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s 310.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Inspired by him?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Inspired house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well you don\u2019t know who built it?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No I don\u2019t.\u00a0 Do y\u2019all remember it?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 This house is one of the older houses.\u00a0 That lady always promised to pull my teeth because I bit.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know who she was.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Are we ready to keep going on down?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think we need to go to the curve.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t think we know any of these.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do what?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think we need to go as far as the curve.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh, I thought you said the curb.\u00a0 There\u2019s a car coming.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There was some Chinese people that lived here.\u00a0 The Bob\u2019s lived over there.\u00a0 Remember the Bob\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bob\u2019s Drug Store downtown.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay, the Chinese lived here on this corner?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was this always empty over here?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 It was a gravel road when I was little.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We are across College.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Crutcher\u2019s.\u00a0 Didn\u2019t the Crutcher\u2019s live there?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The house on the southwest corner is Bob\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 403.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Valentine\u2019s live right there in that gray house.\u00a0 You know Sara Martin or whatever her name is.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 407.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Meador\u2019s lived in the yellow house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know Sara Martin.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 He is the youth person at the Covenant Church.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 409, the yellow house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why is Jay\u2019s name listed on my bulletin?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 My Jay?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Uh huh.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Cause he was a member there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Why did he change?\u00a0 Cause he didn\u2019t like the stain glass windows?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay back on the houses.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I might have lost my train of thought.\u00a0 Donna has relatives in that yellow house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s Jim Hunter\u2019s house right there.\u00a0 His daughter lives in the yellow one too.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This yellow one?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The Austin\u2019s live back here somewhere.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Seawright Florist lives right there?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The florist business was here?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t look like anybody lives there right now.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, I think they\u2019ve locked it.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Nancy lives here I think doesn\u2019t she Donna?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Who?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Nancy Seawright.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know where she lives.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s 415.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She might still live where the Florist was.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do y\u2019all know who lives there?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 The Austin\u2019s lived there at one time.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And the B and P W think down here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 My aunt lives there now.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Your aunt lives there?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Trudy Erwin.\u00a0 She was Trudy Holder.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 All these houses in here \u2013 it\u2019s amazing.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Now which was the \u2013 yeah, that was the B P and W house?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This one right here \u2013 the gray one with the big apron.\u00a0 I\u2019ve read about it and it said it had a lot of concrete in front of it.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is this your aunt\u2019 s house?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 She lives in the one \u2013 the brick one.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What is that, the Business and Professional Women?\u00a0 And this would be the parking.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Clover Shaman married and divorced and came back and they bought the BP &amp; W and she fixed it up as a house until she and Lawrence married.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 LePoint I think that\u2019s one back yonder.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Another big\u2026<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I think the BP &amp; W Club is the only one\u2026<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 In the book it says it has a lot of concrete in the front.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is there another one with a lot of concrete?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 No, but I think at one time they owned another house.\u00a0 The one she fixed up.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The one she fixed up was this one.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Was which one?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This one.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright.\u00a0 How far does it cut off to Cam?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 To the curve.\u00a0 To Frank\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is next door to the Somerville house.\u00a0 And that was Mrs. Lucy\u2019s house right there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was Miss. Lucy\u2019s house at 515?<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was Miss. Lucy\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And this is the back of 518 that we talked about on Leflore.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I had never noticed.\u00a0 The Ellis\u2019 live there now.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 John Ellis.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Emily let\u2019s go down Shelby.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Okay.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think that\u2019s the only street we have not been on.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Didn\u2019t Bill Ellis build this house Donna?<\/p>\n<p><em>Tape paused.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who besides the Cable\u2019s lived there Donna?\u00a0 This house.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And Emmett Smith lived there.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Jenna Simpson lives there.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Emmett Simpson.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Who were the Cable\u2019s?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 He was with the \u2013 was he with the Bank of Cleveland?\u00a0 Mr. Cable?<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (inaudible) for a Cable to be with the electric company.<\/p>\n<p>LS:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I can\u2019t think of her name.\u00a0 Lee Nance and Dick lived there Donna before Emmett.\u00a0 They lived there before they built their house.\u00a0 This was a duplex or something because Hope Sanders\u2019 mother lived there.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And there is the misnomer carriage house.\u00a0 Alright.<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Speakes live there.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Leland Speakes?<\/p>\n<p>DM:\u00a0\u00a0 Was it Leland?\u00a0 No, his 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