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Ray <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is Emily Weaver with Dr. Cameron McMillen in the home of Signe Adams at 208 South Pearman Avenue on the 18th of July, 2007.\u00a0 We are talking about the Historic Preservation Neighborhood Project.\u00a0 Do you willingly participate in this oral history project?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I do.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Can you tell us how long you have been living in this house?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Since 1985 I believe.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t have to be exact.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright.\u00a0 About twenty-two years.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 About twenty-two years.\u00a0 Have you lived somewhere else in Cleveland before that?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We had.\u00a0 We lived on Deering for eighteen months and before that we rented a house that the Koehler\u2019s now live in on Bolivar.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm, I know where that is.\u00a0 And then you moved into this house?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know anything about the history of this house?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I know that C.R. Smith built it, and he was one of the founders of Cleveland or one of the first prominent people in Cleveland.\u00a0 The C.R. Smith Building is downtown.\u00a0 And I believe, but I\u2019m not sure, that his daughter, Mrs. Gooch, lived in it next, or at some time after he did.\u00a0 And she as I understand it was the first female mayor of Cleveland.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know anything about either family.\u00a0 And then at some point Corrine Cassonova, who is married to Travis Cassonova, inherited the house and lived in it for some time.\u00a0 Then she sold it to Oscar and Sally Carradine.\u00a0 They lived in it for a good while and did a lot of restoration.\u00a0 And then after that Dr. Emily Pender and her family, I can\u2019t remember her husband\u2019s name, lived in it for a short time.\u00a0 And then we bought the house at auction on the courthouse steps.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And why was it being auctioned?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It had gone into foreclosure.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Were there lots of people bidding on it?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, there were only two, myself and another man in town who had not been in it.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But you had?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I had been in it, yes.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 And was it in pretty good shape at that time?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was very much like it is.\u00a0 The only thing that was different other than d\u00e9cor was the screen porch had been glassed in and carpeted and curtained, and we objected to that and put it back to the screen porch.\u00a0 That was the whole point of us wanting the house, was to have the screen porch that we knew should have been there.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is it pretty much like it was originally, or have there been structural changes to the house?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 I have often wondered if the screen porch wrapped around because there are columns and this music room off of the living room, sort of look like they could have been outside.\u00a0 On the other hand, I\u2019m not quite sure and no one has been able to answer that question for me.\u00a0 We only have one picture of the house from earlier times and it only shows the front.\u00a0 So we don\u2019t know if this side room was a wrap around porch or not.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 How did you obtain the one picture that you do have?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I believe Corrinne Cassanova gave it to me.\u00a0 Travis and Corrinne were very helpful when we moved in, because they had lived here and at the time had a business in town, an interior decorating business.\u00a0 So they were helpful.\u00a0 Travis taught me how to restring Venetian blinds which is invaluable in an old house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you know anything about any of the neighbors, any of the houses in the neighborhood?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I did at one time.\u00a0 I really don\u2019t remember.\u00a0 LaValle House lived in Mimi and Bill Dossett\u2019s house on the corner.\u00a0 And when we moved in, his mother was still alive.\u00a0 And she told me different things and it has just been so long that I don\u2019t remember.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know the people that she was talking about so it didn\u2019t stick.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This house has a lot of property with it as I understand from the \u2013 do you have the side?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s not mine.\u00a0 I wish.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What about all this..<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The back is ours.\u00a0 The back yard is ours, but the side over here belongs to Wally Ashley.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Was there ever a building on that side or do you know?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m pretty sure that there were buildings that went along with this house and behind us, but I don\u2019t know what they were.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Like carriage houses and (inaudible).<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There was a carriage house.\u00a0 Our sidewalk goes into the middle of the yard and stops.\u00a0 So I assume at some point it went somewhere.\u00a0 Maybe there was a kitchen or \u2026.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There may be some information in that book (inaudible) about that.\u00a0 We can look and see.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Alright, okay.\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking at one time this house was heated by coal.\u00a0 There is a coal chute.\u00a0 There\u2019s a basement, which is unusual for Cleveland.\u00a0 There are just a few basements in town.\u00a0 Our house has one.\u00a0 The Routman\u2019s next door has a basement, and maybe a few more houses.\u00a0 But being such a low area, it is unusual.\u00a0 This is actually the higher end of Cleveland.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you have any problem with water in the basement?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Only when the gutters are rotten.\u00a0 And we learned that when we took some down.\u00a0 We need gutters.\u00a0 That was an interesting experience.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you see the architect\u2019s sign on the rafters in your attic?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, it\u2019s not the rafters, it\u2019s a medallion. And I was getting that when you came.\u00a0 My son painted the upstairs room and it had these.\u00a0 And he didn\u2019t get around to painting and getting them back up.\u00a0 And we discovered on the back that it has been signed.\u00a0 I\u2019ll let you look at it and I\u2019ll get a magnifying glass.\u00a0 Can you read any of that?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 How neat.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 His last name is King.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It shows the date and that\u2019s how we knew the date.\u00a0 We probably could have found the date at the courthouse but I had not done that yet.\u00a0 In 22 years I have not done that.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is that Molding King?\u00a0 Is that what that says?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember.\u00a0 A few years ago when he painted and we found that and I\u2019ve hesitated to get it painted and put it back up.\u00a0 And the room gets along fine without these.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 February 20, 1914.\u00a0 Or I guess 1914.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s what \u2013 that\u2019s the date I assumed.\u00a0 It looks like it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That is very cool.\u00a0 Could we borrow it for the exhibit you think?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t see why not.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That\u2019s great.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You want to look at it with the magnifying glass?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 How many of those medallions were up there?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We can go look.\u00a0 We can tell where they were.\u00a0 Probably six.\u00a0 But they are in the corners.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Have you seen that movie, or that show \u201cIf Walls Could Talk?\u201d\u00a0 Have ya\u2019ll found anything, or any other little clues as to who lived in your house?\u00a0 Like the signature there?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not really.\u00a0 There are two windows in the attic that I hope someday to put into a small house, you know a shed in the backyard, that I assume came from outbuildings.\u00a0 Kitchens or carriage houses or sheds.\u00a0 Otherwise we haven\u2019t found much.\u00a0 No.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 But ya\u2019ll really haven\u2019t taken any walls down or changed anything?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No.\u00a0 Well, the only thing we have done and I\u2019ll show you in the kitchen, someone previously had covered up the brick in the kitchen.\u00a0 And I\u2019m thinking it did not have an opening for a fireplace, or even a stove.\u00a0 So I\u2019m assuming that was where the coal was vented from the basement.\u00a0 There is only one hole, where we put a clock, so it is up high.\u00a0 And that had been covered up completely with plaster or whatever.\u00a0 So we went back to that, and of course we put the screen porch back.\u00a0 We hope someday to put the lead windows around the door and around these doors but I\u2019ve got a long list of things to do.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh, absolutely.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I can\u2019t think of anything else.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What are the windows around there now, they\u2019ve got\u2026<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They are plexiglass.\u00a0 And it works, most people don\u2019t know it\u2019s plexiglass.\u00a0 But I would love to put the original look back.\u00a0 And the Cassanova\u2019s have the originals so I can copy them.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So they took them out when they moved?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They did.\u00a0 And the chandelier.\u00a0 I believe that\u2019s all.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 (Inaudible).<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I don\u2019t know if it would have been an entrance or a dining room and I don\u2019t remember if I ever asked.\u00a0 And once again, when I get to that point I might go see what they have to see what would be good to put in here.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Have you had any specific challenges with a historic home that you can (inaudible)?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh yes.\u00a0 Well, I\u2019ve always lived in an older home.\u00a0 So there were not surprises, but the plumbing just totally broke down.\u00a0 You know a pipe burst not long after we lived here and once you repair one, it\u2019s a domino effect.\u00a0 The next breaks, the next one breaks, the next one.\u00a0 So, with an older home you do a lot of repairing before you get to do anything decorative.\u00a0 So that\u2019s frustrating.\u00a0 The roof needs major work and it\u2019s needed it for twenty years.\u00a0 Number one it is very costly, and number two, no one is willing to do it.\u00a0 Unless you go miles away, a hundred miles away to get someone, which makes it even harder.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Is it the type of roof?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s tall and all it needs, which is major, it needs to all come up and new felt be put down, and then tile put back down, and it\u2019s another fifty to a hundred years, but\u2026<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Major investment.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s a major investment.\u00a0 We did the \u2013 just the wraparound part on the first floor but we haven\u2019t gotten the top roof.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah, that is quite a task.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It does fine you know.\u00a0 It\u2019s going to make it a number of years.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No worries yet.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not yet.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Have ya\u2019ll held lots of events in the home?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not a lot, no.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been busy raising four children and working.\u00a0 We had the Crosstie Patrons Party here the Spring of 2006, so I was excited to do that.\u00a0 Of course it poured down rain.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well your floors look great for that much traffic.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Have you had to refinish the floors?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We have and it\u2019s time to do it again.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Chores never end.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 They don\u2019t.\u00a0 They don\u2019t.\u00a0 You know I\u2019ve wondered about next time trying to do the wax route rather than the polyurethane.\u00a0 But I don\u2019t know if I\u2019m up to that or not.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Would you have ever, you know having been here in this home for twenty years, looking back on it, would you have rather have had a brand new from the ground up, you designed it, home, or are you happy with the decision to be in it?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Since I\u2019ve never lived in a new house, I don\u2019t think I would want to.\u00a0 So I\u2019ve just always lived in an old house, and liked it.\u00a0 I like the personality of an older house.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Talking about personality, did you like the personality of the historic district or what will be called the Historic District?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh absolutely.\u00a0 We love our neighborhood.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Can you tell us a little bit about what\u2019s special about the neighborhood?\u00a0 What makes it special?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, this street and the street behind us I would call our immediate neighborhood, is just such an eclectic mix of professions and personalities and characters.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What changes have you seen in the twenty years that you\u2019ve been here?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Across the street the Hubbell\u2019s built a new home and then the new condo\u2019s and to me, in character with the neighborhood.\u00a0 I think there is a style here, but it is older, but for years that was an empty lot and an older smallish house, not necessarily run-down but in need of tender loving care I should say.\u00a0 So it\u2019s \u2013 that\u2019s an improvement and then people have moved and then come back.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you think the man who owns the lot has any plans to do anything different with that lot?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ten or fifteen years ago, I really can\u2019t remember, he had plans for building condominiums and had the plans for view publicly.\u00a0 So we thought he was going to and he didn\u2019t.\u00a0 So I don\u2019t know.\u00a0 I have not talked with him about that.\u00a0 We love having an empty lot next door.\u00a0 But I would love the condo\u2019s too because they looked like they would be nice.\u00a0 So I don\u2019t know; haven\u2019t asked him lately what his plans are.\u00a0 The neighborhood children play baseball.\u00a0 We used to play volleyball.\u00a0 Speaking of the functions, we used to have volleyball games a lot with tons of people on a Sunday afternoon.\u00a0 And Wally was gracious enough to let us use his lot.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 That was nice.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 I think we have gotten too old for volleyball.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well you have a very interesting fence of sorts on the front of your property.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We have to do something before it is sinks this winter.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So you do have a mind when you replace or repair things that they are very historically accurate and period to the house?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Do you do specific research on homes of this style or anything when you get ready to do any changes or any renovations?\u00a0 Or do you just kind of go with your feelings?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Not really.\u00a0 I grew up in a house that was built in 1921 and this is a few years before that, so I think I\u2019ve always had a sense of the history of this age house. It is not ancient so it\u2019s you know, late Victorian, so no, I haven\u2019t done too much research.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You\u2019ve got a natural feel for it.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well, once again, we haven\u2019t done too much to the house because we were busy with those four children.\u00a0 You know, I knew that there should be a screen porch, but otherwise, we haven\u2019t done anything major.\u00a0 We changed \u2013 when we did paint the outside which we are about to do again, we\u2019ve been waiting for months for the contractors, we did try to put it back to the way it\u2019s been.\u00a0 There\u2019s an ornate piece over the front and then at each of the northeast, south and west \u2013 it\u2019s a triangle with some scroll work, and that one picture we had, the background is painted the color of the brick.\u00a0 And when we moved in it was just all whitewashed, so we came in and made it show up a little bit.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 To go back a little bit, how did you find out that this house was going to be auctioned?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We had been looking at this house for several years and wanted to buy it before the last people bought it and so we were just aware \u2013 we were aware when it came up for sale again and then we heard it was coming up.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So when you are at the courthouse bidding against this guy, were you all openly bidding or did you put in a silent bid?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Oh no, it was open.\u00a0 I took my brother in law with me because my husband wouldn\u2019t go and I told him \u2013 you know &#8211; we talked about it before we went my limit that I would pay for it and I opened the bid with that, or close to it, and maybe he went to my limit.\u00a0 I asked for a recess.\u00a0 I don\u2019t remember who the auctioneer was but he said, \u201cYou can\u2019t have a recess at an auction.\u201d\u00a0 (inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Just a moment to let me think.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So I talked to Bill and we ended up going up $2,500 and got it.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Wow.\u00a0 Great.<\/p>\n<p>CM:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It is a much more interesting story that you just hadn\u2019t bought the house.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>(inaudible)<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 How do you fill a house like this with furniture?\u00a0 Were these things already here?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No.\u00a0 I just gradually \u2013 my mother calls my furniture \u201cearly attic.\u201d\u00a0 And a lot of it is just hand-me-downs.\u00a0 We had nothing in the dining room for years and then we had our very large pool table that Santa Claus had bought the boys.\u00a0 And we had a drop cord light over it, just a single light bulb that my husband, to be funny had wired with one of those old-timey green cords.\u00a0 You know that used to be on the toasters, do you remember when it was green cords?<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Um hmm.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 So it hung down over the pool table.\u00a0 So we had that for years which was fine.\u00a0 If we entertained we put up a table and cloth in the foyer and had dinner there or outside on the picnic table or whatever.\u00a0 Then there is the breakfast room for us.\u00a0 And then we sold the pool table so we could go to the James Beard dinner a few years ago.\u00a0 A number of years ago.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It was a good dinner.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yes it was.\u00a0 Then I ended up buying the dining room table and chairs at an estate sale, so we are slowly getting there.\u00a0 Very slowly.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s fun when everything in your house has a history.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Right.\u00a0 Right.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 You\u2019ll remember it all instead of just going to the Beard\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Exactly.\u00a0 Exactly.<\/p>\n<p>EW:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Well great, do you know of any stories that involved this house or any of the families that lived here?<\/p>\n<p>SA:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 No, except for what I told you. 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